Convert second order of diff. equations to first order

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The discussion revolves around converting a set of second-order differential equations into first-order equations. The equations involve matrices for mass (M) and stiffness (K), with a specific case where a damping coefficient (C) is set to zero. The variables include a coordinate system represented by (x1, θ).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to express the second-order equations in a first-order form using a matrix representation. Some participants question the implications of treating the coordinate system as a single variable and whether the equations resemble known scalar forms.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the conversion of the equations and discussing the implications of the matrices involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the invertibility of the matrix M and the potential for diagonalization, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

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There is a mention of assumptions regarding the invertibility of the matrix M and the specific case of C being zero. The nature of the coordinate system as a vector rather than a scalar is also under discussion.

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I have this set of equation:
My''+Cy'+Ky=0 but C=0
M is a matrix consist of {(-m) (0)/( -1/12mb^2) (-1/12mb^3)}
and K is a matrix of {(-K1-K2) (-K2b)/ ((K1b-K2b)/(2)) (-K2b^2/2)}
and y is a coordinate system which is (x1,θ)
Now i have to convert these two equations of second order to first order and i really got lost since its two equations and using matrices.
We can stack y' and y into z
so the final equation will be : z'=Az
Can anybody guide me how to do it?
 
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If M and K were just constants and y were a single variable, would you recognise the equation?
 
John Park said:
If M and K were just constants and y were a single variable, would you recognise the equation?
I didn't really get what u mean? what do you mean y is a single variable? its a coordinate system (x1,θ)
 
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what do you mean y is a single variable? its a coordinate system (x1,θ)

I know that; that's what "if . . . y were" implies. I'm asking if you recognise the corresponding scalar equation with C=0, which is often solved by reducing it to first order.
 
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Basem said:
My''+Cy'+Ky=0 but C=0
Assuming M-1K is invertible, you can diagonalise it as P-1DP.
See if that gives you some clues.
@Basem, do you need more hints?
 
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