Solution for a second order differential equation

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The discussion revolves around solving a second-order differential equation of the form ∂M/r∂r + ∂2M/∂r2 = A. Participants are exploring various integration techniques and interpretations of the equation.

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  • Participants discuss integration attempts and the resulting expressions. There are questions about the validity of certain integration steps and the correctness of reference solutions. Some participants suggest alternative forms for M and question assumptions about the integration process.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's reasoning. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or solution, but several lines of reasoning are being explored, including transformations to first-order equations.

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Hi,
Could you please help me to solve a second-order differential equation given below
∂M/r∂r+∂2M/∂r2 = A

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anooja559 said:
Hi,
Could you please help me to solve a second-order differential equation given below
∂M/r∂r+∂2M/∂r2 = A
Hi Anooja, what have you done so far? Where are you stuck?
 
WWGD said:
Hi Anooja, what have you done so far? Where are you stuck?
Hi WWGD,
Thank you so much.
So I integrated the equation
∫(∂M/r∂r+∂2M/∂r2 )= ∫A ----(1)
ie ∫∂M/r∂r+∫∂2M/∂r2 = ∫A
1/r*M-∫-1/r2*M + ∂M/∂r = A*r+C1 (integral by parts)
2*M/r+∂M/∂r = A*r+C1 ----(2)
Integrating eq(2) again

∫2*M/r+∂M/∂r = ∫A*r+C1

Which gives,
2*M*ln(r)+M = A*r2+C1*r+C2

However, the reference shows the solution as M = Ar2+C1*ln(r)+C2
 
anooja559 said:
Integrating eq(2) again

∫2*M/r+∂M/∂r = ∫A*r+C1

Which gives,
2*M*ln(r)+M = A*r2+C1*r+C2
∫2*M/r isn't equal to 2M∫ (1/r).
I can't really see how to do it, except by just guessing M = a r^b

The reference solution isn't completely correct, it should be M = \frac{ Ar^2}{4} +C_1 ln(r) +C_2
 
willem2 said:
∫2*M/r isn't equal to 2M∫ (1/r).
I can't really see how to do it, except by just guessing M = a r^b

The reference solution isn't completely correct, it should be M = \frac{ Ar^2}{4} +C_1 ln(r) +C_2
Dear Willem,
That is great, Thanks a lot, Could you please elaborate on how to get this
 
If you let ##y = \frac{dM}{dr}##, you have the first-order differential equation
$$ y' + \frac 1r y = A.$$ Can you solve that one?
 

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