Convert to Parametric Equation of surface?

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The discussion revolves around converting the equation of an ellipsoid, given by 9x² + 4y² + z² = 640, into parametric equations. Participants are exploring how to express the variables x, y, and z in terms of two independent parameters.

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  • Participants discuss the need to select two independent variables to parameterize the surface and express the third variable in terms of these. There is uncertainty about how to derive the parametric equations from the given equation, with some questioning the implications of the constraints on y and z.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing various insights and approaches. Some have suggested methods for determining the ranges of y and z, while others are still grappling with the transition from the implicit equation to explicit parametric forms.

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Participants note that the values of y and z must be constrained to ensure that x remains real, as derived from the original equation. There is also mention of the geometric interpretation of the surface as an ellipsoid, which influences the parameterization approach.

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Convert to Parametric Equation of surface?

How would I go about converting

[tex]9x^2+4y^2+z^2 = 640[/tex]I tried just to solve for each variable but this doesn't seem rightfor example

[tex]\sqrt{\frac{640-z^2-4y^2}{9}}=x[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{\frac{640-z^2-9x^2}{4}}=y[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{\frac{640-4y^2-9x^2}{1}}=z[/tex]
 
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So, to range over a surface, you'll have two independent variables to run over. Pick those two, then solve for the third in terms of those two. If you are unhappy with this parametrization, you can convert to another set of coordinates.
 
so I can just pick to random values for y and z and then solve for xi am not sure exactly what you mean... i mean if I define a certain point for two coordinates than the third coordinate is already defined..
 
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As you say, given a y and z, x is determined (up to sign, in this case)... which can be visualized as a point, a height x above the yz-plane.
So, by varying y and z, you get your surface. You'll probably note that, in this problem, you shouldn't range over all values of y and z.
 
Ok so you are saying that

[tex]z^2+4y^2 < 640[/tex]

[tex]z^2+9x^2 < 640[/tex]

[tex]4y^2+9x^2<640[/tex]

but how does this help me get the parametric equations

I am still not getting how you go from

[tex]9x^2+4y^2+z^2 = 640[/tex]

to x=... y=... z=...
 
Based on what you wrote...
[tex]x=\pm \sqrt{\frac{640-z^2-4y^2}{9}}[/tex]
Now, vary y and z,... and you expect that, for points on your surface, you get real values of x.
So, that constrains what y and z can be.
If you want, you can set up a series of nested loops:
for y=ymin to ymax
* for z=zmin to zmax
** x=f(y,z) [this is a parameteric equation]
** plot(x,y,z)

to determine ymin and ymax... consider the z=0 case.
zmin and zmax are functions of y.
* are indents to show python-like logical blocks.
 
[tex]9x^2+ 4y^2+ z^2= 640[/tex]
[tex]\frac{9x^2}{640}+ \frac{4y^2}{640}+ \frac{z^2}{640}= 1[/tex]
[tex]\frac{x^2}{\frac{640}{9}}+ \frac{y^2}{160}+ \frac{z^2}{640}= 1[/tex]
[tex]\frac{x^2}{\left(\frac{\sqrt{640}}{3}\right)^2}+ \frac{y^2}{\left(\sqrt{160}\right)^2}+ \frac{z^2}{\left(\sqrt{640}\right)^2}= 1[/tex]
That's an ellipsoid- a sphere "stretched" differently along each axis.

Parametric equations for a sphere of radius R can be gotten by using spherical coordinates with [itex]\rho[/itex] set equal to R.

[itex]x= Rsin(\phi)cos(\theta)[/itex]
[itex]y= Rsin(\phi)cos(\theta)[/itex]
[itex]z= R cos(\phi)[/itex]

Your ellipse has "radius" along the x-axis of [itex]\frac{\sqrt{640}}{3}[/itex], along the y-axis of [itex]\sqrt{160}[/itex], and along the z-axis of [itex]\sqrt{640}[/itex]. Replace R above by each of those in the appropriate equation.
 

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