Converting a Plane Equation into Vector Form

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The discussion revolves around converting the equation of a plane, expressed as ax1 + bx2 + cx3 + d = 0, into vector form. The subject area includes vector geometry and the properties of dot products in three-dimensional space.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand how to express the plane equation in vector form but feels uncertain about vector geometry. Some participants suggest that if x1, x2, and x3 are components of a vector, the equation can be represented using a dot product. Others express confusion about the relationship between the dot product and the desired vector form, questioning their understanding of the angle between vectors.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the dot product and its application to the plane equation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the normal vector and points on the plane, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach to convert the equation into vector form.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the definitions and assumptions about the variables involved, particularly whether x1, x2, and x3 are being interpreted correctly in the context of vector components.

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Homework Statement


How do I convert [tex]ax_1+bx_2+cx_3+d=0[/tex] into vector form?


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I am completely at a loss here, mainly because I don't quite understand vector geometry.
 
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If we are to assume that "[itex]x_1[/itex]", "[itex]x_2[/itex]", and "[itex]x_3[/itex]" are components of a vector then that equation would be written [itex]<a, b, c> \cdot <x_1, x_2, x_3>+ d= 0[/itex] where the first term is a "dot product".
 


I better go read up on dot products then. Thanks.
 


Before I go on, x1, x2 and x3 are just variables in 3 dimensions such as x,y,z. Not exactly sure if that is what you were assuming.

Ok so given the formula for a dot product of two vector a and b is [tex]|a||b|cos\theta[/tex] then we have [tex]\sqrt{(a^2+b^2+c^2)(x_1^2+x_2^2+x_3^2)}cos\theta+d=0[/tex]

This doesn't seem right... I don't know how to find the angle between each vector and this isn't anywhere near the kind of answer I'm looking for, it should be of a form similar to this:

[tex]<x_1,x_2,x_3>=<0,0,d>+\lamda<a,0,0>[/tex]

Although I'm possibly just using the dot product all wrong.
 


Mentallic said:
Ok so given the formula for a dot product of two vector a and b is [tex]|a||b|cos\theta[/tex] then we have [tex]\sqrt{(a^2+b^2+c^2)(x_1^2+x_2^2+x_3^2)}cos\theta+d=0[/tex]

That's true; however, there's a much simpler definition of the dot product in this case:

[tex] <a,b,c> \cdot <x_1,x_2,x_3> = ax_1+bx_2+cx_3.[/tex]

As an additional remark, note that, for a plane in [tex]R^3[/tex], we have the following:

[tex]\vec{\textbf{n}} \cdot \vec{\textbf{x}} = 0,[/tex] where [tex]\vec{\textbf{n}} = <a,b,c>[/tex] is a normal vector to the plane and [tex]\vec{\textbf{x}} = <x_1,x_2,x_3>[/tex] is any point on the plane. This is intuitive when we consider the definition of the dot product that you provided. The angle between any point on the plane and a corresponding normal vector is 90 degrees. Thus, [tex]\cos(\theta) = \cos(90) = 0.[/tex]

I hope this helps.
 

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