Converting Helium back to Hydrogen?

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The discussion centers on the possibility of converting a helium atom back into a hydrogen atom, exploring the processes involved in nucleosynthesis and whether a reverse process exists for forming lighter elements from heavier ones. The scope includes theoretical aspects of nuclear physics and binding energy considerations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why helium cannot be converted back to hydrogen, referencing the process of nucleosynthesis in stars.
  • Another participant mentions that the process of fission could separate helium into hydrogen, but notes that it requires a significant amount of energy.
  • A third participant suggests studying the binding energy curve to understand the energy dynamics involved in fusion and fission processes.
  • The same participant explains that atoms lighter than iron release energy during fusion and require energy for fission, while atoms heavier than iron do the opposite.
  • A link to additional resources on binding energy and packing fraction curves is provided for further exploration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of converting helium to hydrogen, with some suggesting fission as a method while others emphasize the energy requirements involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the practicality of such a conversion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the energy dynamics of nuclear processes and the conditions under which fusion and fission occur, particularly concerning elements lighter and heavier than iron.

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I am trying to find the reason why a helium atom cannot be turned back into a hydrogen atom.

We know in a star that through nucleosynthesis helium is formed from hydrogen and the process continues to form heavier elements. Is there a similar, but in reverse process where lighter elements are formed from heavier elements?
 
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Yes. It's called fission. :smile:

But it takes a lot of energy to separate helium into hydrogen.
 
Thanks for the quick reply.
 
You need to study the binding energy curve.

Basically atoms lighter than iron release energy in fusion and take in energy for fission

whilst

Basically atoms heavier than iron release energy in fission and take in energy for fusion

Here is a more complete answer

http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/energy/bindingE.html

also look up the packing fraction curve.
 

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