Converting kN to Bar: An Explanation and Guide

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around converting kN to bar for the purpose of calibrating a pressure gauge used in a hydraulic jack. Participants explore the relationship between force and pressure, particularly in the context of piston dimensions and measurement uncertainties.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in converting kN values to pressure, emphasizing the need for elaboration on the units involved.
  • Another participant clarifies that kN is a unit of force, not pressure, and suggests a conversion factor if kN is interpreted as kN/m².
  • A participant confirms the context of the pressure gauge as being used for a hydraulic jack and notes the presence of multiple scales on the gauge.
  • Another participant proposes a method to relate kN values to pressure by calculating the force produced by the piston area, providing an example calculation based on a pressure of 1 bar.
  • There is a caution regarding the measurement of the piston area, highlighting the importance of using the inner diameter of the cylinder for accurate calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of kN in this context, with some asserting it as a unit of force and others discussing its application in pressure measurement. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to the conversion and the implications of piston measurements.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the relationship between force and pressure, particularly in how the piston dimensions are measured and applied in calculations. The discussion does not resolve these assumptions.

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I have received a pr. gauge for calibration. It's graduations are in bar and kN. The gauge is to be calibrated using kN readings and result should be given along with the uncertainty in measurements. The diameter of the piston used in the system (provided by the customer) is 5.4cm.
Can anybody help me how to read the kN values in terms of pressure? I would highly appreciate if the units are elaborated.
 
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Is this for a weight scale of some sort? kN is generally an abbreviation for kiloNewtons which is a unit of force, not pressure. If it's in kN/m2, then the conversion is 1 bar = 100 kN/m2.
 
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Thank you Goest for the comment.

The pressure gauge is used for hydraulic jack.

The outer scale of the gauge is in bar. Inner scales (3 in nos) are graduated in kN with different ranges which can be used with different pistons.
I need to relate the kN values with the piston radius provided by the customer.

Thanks and regards

josey584
 
It sounds like the hydraulic jack is also doubling as a weight scale. That's not unusual, so I'll assume that's what the kN scale is being used for. So the conversion is to simply multiply pressure times piston area. If your piston is 5.4 cm, the area of that piston is 0.00229 m2*. The force produced by the piston is the piston area multiplied by pressure. For example, let's say you have a pressure of 1 bar:

Force = 1 bar * 0.00229 m2 * 100 = 0.229 kN

* Note that the area being used is actually the seal diameter which is the cylinder ID if your seals are on the piston which is the more typical case. If the seals are in the cylinder, the piston diameter is the actual diameter you use. I just wanted to point this out because you shouldn't measure the piston to get the area, you should measure the ID of the cylinder.
 

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