Converting kW/h to kWh for Optimizing Fuel Cell Ramp-Up

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The discussion focuses on optimizing the ramp-up of a fuel cell with a modulation ramp of 4% of its nominal power (58.3 kW) per minute. The main challenge was converting this ramp-up into kWh for a model simulating energy use over a year. It was clarified that energy during ramp-up can be calculated using the average power over time, specifically using the formula for a straight-line ramp. The ramp-up time was determined to be 25 minutes, resulting in an energy calculation of 12.5 kWh. The participant successfully resolved their issue regarding the conversion of kW to kWh during the ramp-up phase.
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Hi everyone,

I am working on a mathematical optimization model for a fuel cell.
Currently I am facing a problem with the ramp-up of the cell.
I have a modulation ramp of 4% of the nominal power (58.3 kW) per minute.
My constraint in the model has to be in kWh (I have to precise that my model is a hourly simulation during one year).
Concerning the conversion of the power in other constraints (as for FC capacity constraint) I simply multiplied the power times one hour and I should get the energy in kWh.
But for the ramp-up constraint I am really struggling with the conversion.
Anyone that has an idea how to obtain it?

Thanks in advance for any help.
Ornella
 
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Ornella said:
I simply multiplied the power times one hour and I should get the energy in kWh.
That works for constant power. For variable power you have take its integral over time.
 
A.T. said:
That works for constant power. For variable power you have take its integral over time.
The power is actually constant. I am trying to expand the simulation per every hour of the year. Is it still wrong?
 
Ornella said:
I have a modulation ramp of 4% of the nominal power (58.3 kW) per minute.
Maybe:
At the start you are drawing no current. Every minute you can increase your power draw by 4% of 58.3kW (= 2.332kW)
After 15min you are drawing the full rated power of 58.3kW.
 
If you are looking at energy, then, provided the ramp is a straight line (as it usually seems to be),
energy during ramp = average power x time = 1/2 full power * ramp time. = 0.5 x 58.3 x 0.25 kWh
 
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Ornella said:
The power is actually constant.
Than what are you measuring in kW/h?
 
A.T. said:
Than what are you measuring in kW/h?
the energy during the ramp up of my fuel cell
 
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Merlin3189 said:
If you are looking at energy, then, provided the ramp is a straight line (as it usually seems to be),
energy during ramp = average power x time = 1/2 full power * ramp time. = 0.5 x 58.3 x 0.25 kWh
Thank you very much! That's what I was looking for!
 
Merlin3189 said:
Maybe:
At the start you are drawing no current. Every minute you can increase your power draw by 4% of 58.3kW (= 2.332kW)
After 15min you are drawing the full rated power of 58.3kW.
I actually found out the time for ramp up to be 25 min.

0.04/min * 60 min/h * 58 kW = 139.9 kW/h
58.3 kW / 139.92 = 0.42 h = 25 min
Then I applied the method as you said.
0.5 * 58.3 * 0.42 = 12.5 kWh
Thanks again!
 
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Yes you're quite right. My brain must be withering! 25 minutes at 4% per minute is 100%
 
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A.T. said:
Then what are you measuring in kW/h?
Ornella said:
the energy during the ramp up of my fuel cell
Energy is measured in kWh, not in kW/h.
 
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A.T. said:
Energy is measured in kWh, not in kW/h.

I was trying to obtain the energy during the actual time of ramp-up. But I solved my problem.
Thanks anyways.
 
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