Converting to Spherical Coordinates then integrating? Am I doing this right?

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The discussion revolves around converting a triple integral from Cartesian to spherical coordinates. The integral in question is ∫∫∫(x²z + y²z + z³) dz dy dx, with specified limits for each variable. Participants are exploring the correct setup for spherical coordinates and the implications for the limits of integration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the conversion of the integrand and the volume element in spherical coordinates. There is uncertainty regarding the limits of integration after the conversion, particularly for the right-most integral.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the volume element and the integrand transformation. There is ongoing exploration of the limits of integration, with some participants questioning their correctness and seeking confirmation on their derived limits.

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Participants note that the original limits describe a region related to a sphere of radius 2 centered at (0, 0, 2). There is a focus on ensuring that the spherical coordinates accurately reflect this geometry.

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Converting to Spherical Coordinates...then integrating? Am I doing this right?

Homework Statement


Consider the integral ∫∫∫(x2z + y2z + z3) dz dy dx, where the left-most integral is from -2 to 2, the second -√(4-x2) to √(4-x2) and the right-most integral is from 2-√(4-x2-y2) to 2+√(4-x2-y2)

Homework Equations


x=ρsin(phi)cos(θ)
y=ρsin(phi)sin(θ)
z=ρcos(phi)
x2+y2+z22

The Attempt at a Solution


So I need to convert to spherical coordinates. The first 2 integrals describe a region on the xy-plane that's a circle, centered at the origin, with a radius of 2. The distance from the origin I thought was from 0 to 4, as described the right-most integral from above. Then using the equations from above, I converted the integrand:

∫∫∫ρcos(phi)ρ2sin(phi) dρ d(phi) dθ

Left-most integral: 0 to 2*pi
Middle: 0 to pi/2
Right: 0 to 4

Final answer = 2144.67 (which does not feel right)

I'm fairly certain I am correct for the most part, except the right most integral in the spherical-converted integral. Anyone care to check if I did everything correctly?
 
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emzee1 said:

Homework Statement


Consider the integral ∫∫∫(x2z + y2z + z3) dz dy dx, where the left-most integral is from -2 to 2, the second -√(4-x2) to √(4-x2) and the right-most integral is from 2-√(4-x2-y2) to 2+√(4-x2-y2)


Homework Equations


x=ρsin(phi)cos(θ)
y=ρsin(phi)sin(θ)
z=ρcos(phi)
x2+y2+z22


The Attempt at a Solution


So I need to convert to spherical coordinates. The first 2 integrals describe a region on the xy-plane that's a circle, centered at the origin, with a radius of 2. The distance from the origin I thought was from 0 to 4, as described the right-most integral from above. Then using the equations from above, I converted the integrand:

∫∫∫ρcos(phi)ρ2sin(phi) dρ d(phi) dθ

Left-most integral: 0 to 2*pi
Middle: 0 to pi/2
Right: 0 to 4

Final answer = 2144.67 (which does not feel right)

I'm fairly certain I am correct for the most part, except the right most integral in the spherical-converted integral. Anyone care to check if I did everything correctly?
Hello emzee1. Welcome to PF !

The volume element in spherical coordinates is dV=\rho^2\sin(\phi)\,d\rho\,d\phi\,d\theta\ .

The integrand: x^2z+y^2z+z^3=(x^2+y^2+z^2)z \ \to\ \rho^2\left(\rho\cos(\phi)\right)=\rho^3\cos(\phi)\ .
 


Thanks for that SammyS, I guess that was a mental mistake on my part. What about the limits for the integral for the spherical-integral? I don't think I did those correctly...
 


emzee1 said:
Thanks for that SammyS, I guess that was a mental mistake on my part. What about the limits for the integral for the spherical-integral? I don't think I did those correctly...
Look at the limits of integration for z.

They describe a sphere of radius 2, centered at (x, y, z) = (0, 0, 2) .

Write that equation in spherical coordinates.
 


So I converted the equation of the sphere:

x2+y2+(z-2)2 = 4

to:

ρ2-4ρcos(phi) = 0

solving for ρ:

ρ= 4cos(phi)

so the integral limits, in terms of dρ: 0 to 4cos(phi) ?
Then the limits of d(phi): 0 to pi/2
And the limits of dθ: 0 to 2*pi?

Does this sound correct?
 


emzee1 said:
So I converted the equation of the sphere:

x2+y2+(z-2)2 = 4

to:

ρ2-4ρcos(phi) = 0

solving for ρ:

ρ= 4cos(phi)

so the integral limits, in terms of dρ: 0 to 4cos(phi) ?
Then the limits of d(phi): 0 to pi/2
And the limits of dθ: 0 to 2*pi?

Does this sound correct?
That looks better --- correct.

I'm notorious for overlooking details! LOL !
 

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