Coriolis Acceleration of a Mechanism

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the analysis of a mechanical system involving a rotating rod and a collar, focusing on the determination of angular velocities, relative velocities, and accelerations. The context includes homework-related queries and the application of kinematic equations in a dynamic system.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • The participant outlines the problem involving a rotating mechanism and lists specific quantities to determine, including angular velocity and acceleration.
  • Equations relevant to velocity and acceleration analysis are provided, including those for Coriolis acceleration.
  • One participant attempts to analyze the velocity vectors and calculates the angular velocity of link CD based on their findings.
  • Another participant comments on the orientation of the ω^2-related accelerations and suggests that they are directed towards the center of rotation, while others are orthogonal.
  • A later reply questions the notation used in the analysis, suggesting a need for clearer coordinate representation.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the placement of vectors in their analysis but later indicates they may have identified an error in their approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the notation and vector placement in the analysis. There is no consensus on the correct approach to the problem, and multiple interpretations of the vector orientations are presented.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the orientations of vectors and the use of coordinate systems remain unresolved. The discussion reflects a reliance on visual representations that may not be fully articulated in the text.

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Homework Statement


Rod AB rotates with the angular velocity and acceleration CCW as shown. Points A and D are pin connected. The collar C is pin connected to the link CD and slides over the link AB. At the instant shown the link CD is vertical and the link AB has an angular velocity of 2 rad/s, and an angular acceleration of 4 rad/s2

determine,

1) The angular velocity of link CD
2) The relative velocity of point C with reference to A
3) The velocity of point C
4) The angular acceleration of link CD
5) The relative acceleration of point C with reference to A
6) The acceleration of point C

http://imgur.com/6lTfnYV --> Here is a picture of the question so you can see what the mechanism looks like.

Homework Equations


v = ωr (1)
an = ω2r (2)
at = αr (3)
vb = va + vb/a (4)
ab = aa + ab/a (5)[/B]

Coriolis Accel. eqn

acorn = -2ω(vb/a t) (6)
acort = 2ω(vb/a n) (7)


The Attempt at a Solution



Since this solution involves drawing various vectors I will include a picture of my work to help make things a bit easier. All of my work is in this picture as well so you can either look at my work their or at what I have written below. http://imgur.com/PAjUJoh,4PSWKHt

VELOCITY ANALYSIS

First off I started with the velocity analysis and drew where I thought the velocity vectors of each point would be. From my vectors vc, vc', and vc/c' I found,

vc' = vc cos 30 = 1.386 m/s
vc/c' = vc sin 30 = 0.8 m/s

next I found my angular velocity of CD,

ωCD = vc' / rCD = 4.62 rad/s

ACCELERATION ANALYSIS

I started off by writing down all the relevant equations

acn = rAC ωAC2
act = rAC αAC

ac'n = rCD ωCD2
ac't = rCD αCD

ac/c'n = ?
ac/c't = ?

acorn = -2ωCD(vc/c'n)
acort = 2ωCD(vc/c't)

What I am stuck on is that I don't know where my vectors are supposed to go. I'm not sure what I've done wrong and don't really know where to go from here.
 
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The ω^2-related accelerations are always towards the center of rotation, the others orthogonal to it. And you know the orientations of those vectors with your 30°-sketch, this is similar to the velocities.
 
mfb said:
The ω^2-related accelerations are always towards the center of rotation, the others orthogonal to it. And you know the orientations of those vectors with your 30°-sketch, this is similar to the velocities.
So since I drew my vc/c' directly down my ac/c'n would be down in the same direction and I would have no tangential ac/c't?
 
I'm not sure if I understand your notation (why don't you use coordinates like x and y?). You have both horizontal and vertical acceleration at point C.
 
It's ok I think I have found what I did wrong!
 

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