Correcting camera distance with zoom

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calibration of pinhole cameras in an experimental setup, specifically addressing the challenges of adjusting for differences in distance and magnification between cameras. Participants explore the implications of using zoom to correct these discrepancies after images have been taken.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a setup with four pinhole cameras, noting that one camera is positioned further away and has different magnification, leading to a need for calibration.
  • Another participant suggests that the relationship between image and object distances in an ideal pinhole camera allows for moving the image plane to compensate for distance differences, but notes that perspective will differ.
  • A later reply questions whether the same ratio of distance (72.5% further) can be applied to zoom adjustments, while also addressing the proposed solution of using a 52.5% zoom to correct magnification issues.
  • Another participant agrees that enlarging images by the correct ratio should work, but reiterates that perspective differences will remain a factor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the effectiveness of using zoom to correct for distance differences and magnification issues. There is no consensus on the best approach, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the practical application of these ideas.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the limitations of their approaches, particularly regarding the impact of perspective changes when using different cameras and the challenges of adjusting images post-capture.

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So I have four pinhole type cameras in my experimental setup. All of them have the same magnification and are placed at the same distance away at different locations except one which has a different magnification and zoom. This camera is 72.5% further and has 52.5% less magnification as the rest of the cameras. The magnification problem could be worked out in a photoshop by an appropriate 52.5% zoom (or so I naively assume) but how to correctly zoom to adjust the difference due to position seems to be a harder problem. I am only familiar with the lens-makers equation to tie in magnification levels with image distances etc, but a pinhole is not a lens and I am not sure how to fix the distance problem with zoom. Any ideas? I'd like to calibrate all of the cameras. Thanks
 
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The beauty of an -- ideal -- pinhole camera is that there is none of that focal length nonsense to obscure the relationship of image to object. The ratio of I-O distances should be the same as the ratio of I-O sizes. So you should be able to move the image plane on your more-distant camera to compensate. Note that you will still have a different viewing angle so the perspective of objects at various distances will not exactly match the other cameras, much like changing from wide-angle to telephoto lenses on a grown-up camera.
 
schip666! said:
The beauty of an -- ideal -- pinhole camera is that there is none of that focal length nonsense to obscure the relationship of image to object. The ratio of I-O distances should be the same as the ratio of I-O sizes. So you should be able to move the image plane on your more-distant camera to compensate. Note that you will still have a different viewing angle so the perspective of objects at various distances will not exactly match the other cameras, much like changing from wide-angle to telephoto lenses on a grown-up camera.

what if the pictures were already taken? Now I must use zoom to account for the distance, are you saying I can use the 72.5% further ratio and zoom by the same amount? Also what do you think of my idea to solve the magnification problem by an appropriate 52.5% zoom?
 
Ah, I see... Yes, you should be able to just enlarge them by the right ratio. The proof will be in the pudding when you compare the same object in multiple photos. But as I said, the relative perspective will be off for objects at different distances.
 

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