Correcting Limits in Double Integral for Intersection Volume of Three Cylinders

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on calculating the volume of the intersection of three cylinders defined by the equations x² + y² = 1, y² + z² = 1, and z² + x² = 1. Two double integrals were set up to compute this volume, yielding different results. The first integral, which integrates over two octants, is incorrect, while the second integral correctly integrates over the first octant. The correct evaluation of the second integral confirms the volume as 8(2 - √2).

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of double integrals in polar coordinates
  • Familiarity with the equations of cylinders in three-dimensional space
  • Knowledge of trigonometric identities and their applications in integration
  • Experience with evaluating integrals involving square roots and trigonometric functions
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the derivation of triple integrals for volume calculations
  • Learn about the geometric interpretation of cylindrical coordinates
  • Explore the use of Jacobians in changing variables for multiple integrals
  • Investigate common pitfalls in setting limits for integrals in multiple dimensions
USEFUL FOR

Students and educators in calculus, particularly those focusing on multivariable calculus and integral geometry, as well as professionals involved in computational geometry and volume calculations.

Scigatt
Messages
12
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


I was trying to find the volume of the intersection between 3 cylinders x^2 + y^2 = 1, y^2 + z^2 =1, and z^2 + x^2 =1. I set up the double integral in two different ways:
[tex]8\int_{\theta = \frac{-\pi}{4}}^{\frac{\pi}{4}}\int_{r = 0}^{1} \sqrt{1 - r^{2}\: cos^{2}\, \theta}\; \; r\: dr\: d\theta[/tex]
[tex]16\int_{\theta = 0}^{\frac{\pi}{4}}\int_{r = 0}^{1} \sqrt{1 - r^{2}\: cos^{2}\, \theta}\; \; r\: dr\: d\theta[/tex]

They should give the same answer, but they don't. Apparently the second one is supposed to be right.

Homework Equations


see above

The Attempt at a Solution


After doing all the integrating, I get
[tex]\frac{8}{3} \left [ tan\, \theta \; - \; sec\, \theta \;- \; cos\, \theta \right ]_{\frac{-\pi}{4}}^{\frac{\pi}{4}} = \frac{16}{3}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{16}{3} \left [ tan\, \theta \; - \; sec\, \theta \;- \; cos\, \theta \right ]_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{4}} = 8(2 - \sqrt{2})[/tex]

what's going on here?
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
Scigatt said:

Homework Statement


I was trying to find the volume of the intersection between 3 cylinders x^2 + y^2 = 1, y^2 + z^2 =1, and z^2 + x^2 =1. I set up the double integral in two different ways:
[tex]8\int_{\theta = \frac{-\pi}{4}}^{\frac{\pi}{4}}\int_{r = 0}^{1} \sqrt{1 - r^{2}\: cos^{2}\, \theta}\; \; r\: dr\: d\theta[/tex]
[tex]16\int_{\theta = 0}^{\frac{\pi}{4}}\int_{r = 0}^{1} \sqrt{1 - r^{2}\: cos^{2}\, \theta}\; \; r\: dr\: d\theta[/tex]

They should give the same answer, but they don't. Apparently the second one is supposed to be right.

Homework Equations


see above

The Attempt at a Solution


After doing all the integrating, I get
[tex]\frac{8}{3} \left [ tan\, \theta \; - \; sec\, \theta \;- \; cos\, \theta \right ]_{\frac{-\pi}{4}}^{\frac{\pi}{4}} = \frac{16}{3}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{16}{3} \left [ tan\, \theta \; - \; sec\, \theta \;- \; cos\, \theta \right ]_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{4}} = 8(2 - \sqrt{2})[/tex]

what's going on here?
Your second result is correct.

The error with your first result occurs with your integration with respect to z. In the first case, you have integrated r*dz between z = 0 and z= sqrt[1-r^2*cos(theta)]. That is, the region in the first Octant. However, when it comes to your integration of theta, you have integrated over two octants.
 
Hootenanny said:
Your second result is correct.

The error with your first result occurs with your integration with respect to z. In the first case, you have integrated r*dz between z = 0 and z= sqrt[1-r^2*cos(theta)]. That is, the region in the first Octant. However, when it comes to your integration of theta, you have integrated over two octants.

Are you talking about octant in the plane or octants in space? I'm not sure how the 'mismatched' octants would lead to such an error. Here is the preliminary triple integral of the first integral:

[tex]8\int_{\theta = \frac{-\pi}{4}}^{\frac{\pi}{4}}\int_{r = 0}^{1} \int_{z = 0}^{\sqrt{1 - x^{2}}}\: dz\: r\: dr\: d\theta[/tex]

You say that there is a flaw in the in the first integral because of a conflict in the z and theta limits. How would you change the integral without changing the theta-limits so that it gives the right answer?
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
3K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K