Correcting the Mistakes in Completing the Square for y=3x^2+2x-1

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The discussion focuses on the process of completing the square for the quadratic equation y=3x^2+2x-1. The user initially makes a mistake in sign when comparing terms, leading to confusion about the values of h and k. A key correction involves recognizing that the equation should include a positive 2x term instead of a negative one. Ultimately, the correct form of the equation is clarified as y=3(x-1/3)^2-4/3, highlighting the importance of accurately aligning coefficients during the transformation. The conversation emphasizes the need for careful term comparison to avoid errors in completing the square.
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Ok so can you please tell me where I go wrong here. I want to put
y=3x^2+2x-1 into y=a(x-h)^2+K

ax^2-2ah+ah^2+k=3x^2-2x+ah^2-1

ax^2=3x^2 -----> a=3
-2ahx=-2x
-2(3)hx=-2x ----->h=1/3
K=----->-1

Therefore:

y=3(x-1/3)^2-1

But I think it's suppost to be: y=3(x+1/3)^2-4/3

Is that right? So what is wrong...
 
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thomasrules said:
Ok so can you please tell me where I go wrong here. I want to put
y=3x^2+2x-1 into y=a(x-h)^2+K

ax^2-2ah+ah^2+k=3x^2-2x+ah^2-1

ax^2=3x^2 -----> a=3
-2ahx=-2x
-2(3)hx=-2x ----->h=1/3
K=----->-1

Therefore:

y=3(x-1/3)^2-1

But I think it's suppost to be: y=3(x+1/3)^2-4/3

Is that right? So what is wrong...

There's nothing wrong with your method...except that I find it very confusing! :confused:

I want to put
y=3x^2+2x-1 into y=a(x-h)^2+K

ax^2-2ah+ah^2+k=3x^2-2x+ah^2-1
I know you are trying to compare terms to find h and k here, but how did the 2x get a negative sign?

I'd recommend looking at it like this:
y=3x^2+2x-1
y=3x^2+2x+D-D-1

Now, a perfect square in the form a(x-h)^2 looks like:
ax^2-2ahx+ah^2=3x^2+2x+D
We see that -2ah=2 and ah^2=D.
We of course know what a is, right? I leave it to you to finish finding h and D.

Then you've got:
y=(3x^x+2x+D)-D-1
y=a(x-h)^2-D-1
with whatever D value you have.

-Dan
 
y=3x^2+2x-1 into y=a(x-h)^2+K

ax^2-2ah+ah^2+k=3x^2-2x+ah^2-1

In going from the first line to the second, it looks quite screwed up.
 
Yea thanks Dan for your help I now clearly understand it..

Btw you that was a mistake with the -2 , what should have bee +2
 
thomasrules said:
Ok so can you please tell me where I go wrong here. I want to put
y=3x^2+2x-1 into y=a(x-h)^2+K

ax^2-2ah+ah^2+k=3x^2-2x+ah^2-1
This is where you went wrong: you want
ax^2- 2ah+ ah^2+ k= 3x^2- 3x-1
not "ah2- 1".


ax^2=3x^2 -----> a=3
-2ahx=-2x
-2(3)hx=-2x ----->h=1/3
K=----->-1
No, ah2+ k= -1. Since a= 3 and h= 1/3, ah2= 1/3 and k= -1- 1/3= -4/3.

Therefore:

y=3(x-1/3)^2-1

But I think it's suppost to be: y=3(x+1/3)^2-4/3

Is that right? So what is wrong...
 
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