Could anyone me with identifying a molecule?

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In summary: I found this information on Google Images. The structure seems to be a molecule called 2,4-dimethyl-3-isopropylpentane. I'm not sure if all of the dots are carbon, but it might work.
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Hello everyone. my name is Gary, I'm a British Journalist working for a Mexican TV news station. We are reporting on the appearance of a large crop circle that's been made in the UK today, which resembles some kind of chemical molecule. I've attached a picture. If anyone recognises it's structure and could let me know, i'd be greatly obliged.
 

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2,4-dimethyl-3-isopropylpentane, would work, if the dots are all carbons? I'm sure there are probably other molecules with the same structure...
 
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Triaminoamine would fit as well.

PS: and trinitramide (that would even have the planar structure)
 
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Why a chemical? Looks like a mapping of a tree heirarchy or logic map. Triaminoamine doesn’t exist. Guanidine does exist.
 
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shjacks45 said:
Why a chemical?

Looks to me like a cartoon alien.
 
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Perhaps its what they really look like...lets not alienate them.
 
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DrStupid said:
Triaminoamine doesn’t exist. Guanidine does exist.

But guanidine lacks an atom. Do you mean the guanidinium ion?
 
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djembefolla said:
Hello everyone. my name is Gary, I'm a British Journalist working for a Mexican TV news station. We are reporting on the appearance of a large crop circle that's been made in the UK today
Welcome to PhysicsForums, Gary. Interesting juxtaposition of counties...

Anyway, Google Images : Search By Image turns up lots of similar nonsense, so it's just another example of folks messing with you, IMO. Have a nice day.

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Some of these are really impressive. There should be a contest.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Some of these are really impressive. There should be a contest.
Maybe @ZapperZ should have a photo contest thread for crop circle photos from members who have stomped them out themselves...
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Some of these are really impressive. There should be a contest.

People do these things to impress others and make something better than previous ones, to me that sounds like a contest, just an informal one.
 
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etotheipi said:
2,4-dimethyl-3-isopropylpentane, would work, if the dots are all carbons? I'm sure there are probably other molecules with the same structure...
Thank you.
 

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