Could Someone Look Over My Work? (particle accelerator design problem)

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The discussion revolves around the design of a simple particle accelerator, specifically focusing on the calculations related to voltage, electric field strength, and energy storage in capacitors. The original poster presents a scenario involving charged plates and electron beams, aiming to determine the necessary voltage difference and energy stored in the electric field.

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  • Participants explore the calculations for voltage, electric field strength, and energy storage, with some questioning the validity of specific steps and assumptions made in the calculations. There is a focus on understanding the relationship between voltage and energy in the context of the problem.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the calculations, while others express confusion about specific terms and conversions. There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts involved, with no clear consensus reached on the calculations or assumptions.

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Participants note potential conversion errors and question the appropriateness of certain values used in the calculations. The discussion reflects a lack of clarity regarding the relationship between electron volts and voltage, as well as the implications of the calculations presented.

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Homework Statement



  1. You want to construct a simple particle accelerator and hit on the following design: you will take two oppositely charged plates with small holes drilled into them and set them up parallel to each other. You will create a vacuum between the two plates and fire a beam of electrons through the small hole in the negatively charged plate, aimed so that the beam will emerge through the hole in the positively charged plate. You want the electrons in the beam to gain 10.0 eV of energy, so you need to work out what magnitude of voltage difference to set up between the two plates.
    Correct, computer gets: 1.0E+01 V

    Your electron beam consists of electrons that are initially moving at around 2.7×105 m/s. You want to work out how fast the electrons are moving after passing through your accelerator.

    Correct, computer gets: 1.9e+06 m/s

    You decide to investigate the physical details of your electron accelerator a bit more closely. You start by determining the strength of the electric field between the plates. You've set the plates up so that their separation is 3 μm.

    Correct, computer gets: 3.3E+06 V/m

    The plates you chose had areas of 9 mm^2. You want to know how much electrical energy is stored by the electric field between the plates.

Homework Equations


C=(ε0)A/d

Capacitor Energy=1/2C*v2

The Attempt at a Solution


This is fairly easy problem, which is a great reason why it's also the one that's holding me back from the entire homework set. I think I made a conversion error I just don't know where.

-(8.854E-12)(9E-6/3E-6)
=2.655E-11 C

1/2(2.655E-11)(9)2
=1.075275E-9 J
 
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UF6 said:
This is fairly easy problem, which is a great reason why it's also the one that's holding me back from the entire homework set. I think I made a conversion error I just don't know where.

-(8.854E-12)(9E-6/3E-6)
=2.655E-11 C

1/2(2.655E-11)(9)2
=1.075275E-9 J

Where did the (9)^2 come from? I assume that is supposed to be velocity?
 
edit: I was wrong.
 
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You already know the voltage: 10 V.

@RUber: that calculation does not make sense at all.
 
mfb said:
You already know the voltage: 10 V.

@RUber: that calculation does not make sense at all.
Would you convert 10 eV into 1E19 V or leave it as so?

The answer given for either case as the final answer is 1.3275E27 J or 1.3275E-9 J. I just find the first to be rather larger.
 
There is nothing to convert.
UF6 said:
so you need to work out what magnitude of voltage difference to set up between the two plates.
Correct, computer gets: 1.0E+01 V
"Converting 10 eV into 1E19 V" does not make sense. It's like trying to convert 1 meter to 5 kilogram of apples.
 
mfb said:
There is nothing to convert.
"Converting 10 eV into 1E19 V" does not make sense. It's like trying to convert 1 meter to 5 kilogram of apples.
Thanks by the way. I understand how that works now a bit better after reading about electron volts to volts after I read your response.
 

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