Mastering Physics: Electron turning 90 degrees in capacitor

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The problem involves determining the electric field strength required for an electron to turn 90 degrees while traveling through a parallel-plate capacitor. The electron enters with a specified kinetic energy and must exit at a right angle to its original path, with a defined distance between the entry and exit points.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the electric field and the acceleration needed to change the electron's trajectory. Questions arise regarding the inclusion of acceleration in the equations and the components of motion being considered.

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Some participants have provided hints and clarifications regarding the calculations, particularly about the components of acceleration and the factors involved in the equations. There is an acknowledgment of corrections made to the original post, and a participant reports successfully finding the total magnitude of the electric field after applying the Pythagorean theorem.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the factors in the equations and the specific components of acceleration being referenced. The original poster's calculations were initially deemed incorrect by the homework platform, prompting further discussion and clarification.

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Homework Statement


A problem of practical interest is to make a beam of electrons turn a 90∘ corner. This can be done with the parallel-plate capacitor shown in the figure (Figure 1) . An electron with kinetic energy 2.0×10−17 J enters through a small hole in the bottom plate of the capacitor.
What strength electric field is needed if the electron is to emerge from an exit hole 1.0 cm away from the entrance hole, traveling at right angles to its original direction?
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Homework Equations


Vf2=Vi2+2ad
F=ma
F=Eq
K (kinetic energy) = 1/2mv2

The Attempt at a Solution


The electric field needs bring vertical velocity to zero and horizontal velocity to what the vertical velocity was. I should just be able to find what E-field is necessary to bring the vertical velocity to zero without having to worry about the horizontal velocity, I think.

Vi=(2K/m)1/2
d=.01*cos45
0=(2K/m)+2a*.01*cos45
-K/(m(.01*cos45))=a

Now finding acceleration in terms of E
qE=ma
qE/m=a

Combining them:
-K/(m(.01*cos45))=qE/m
-K/(q(.01*cos45))=E

Now, when I go through this I get 17655 N/C, which seems close (right order of magnitude), but according to Mastering it's not correct. Any help would be appreciated, thank you!
 
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danielhep said:
Vi=(2K/m)1/2
d=.01*cos45
0=(2K/m)+.01*cos45
Did you leave out the acceleration in the second equation above?
[EDIT: Should there also be a factor of 2 in the second term?]
-K/(m(.01*cos45))=a
What happened to the factor of 2? [EDIT: I think this is ok. See edited comment above]
Is the acceleration "a" the magnitude of the total acceleration, or does it represent just a component of the acceleration?
 
TSny said:
Did you leave out the acceleration in the second equation above?
[EDIT: Should there also be a factor of 2 in the second term?

What happened to the factor of 2? [EDIT: I think this is ok. See edited comment above]
Is the acceleration "a" the magnitude of the total acceleration, or does it represent just a component of the acceleration?
Fixed the original post, thanks.

a represents the y component of the acceleration... Which means I'm just finding the y component of the electric field...

I just took my answer and used the pythagorean theorem to find the total magnitude and it was correct! Thank you! That was a perfect hint.
 
Good work!
 

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