Could someone me solve for ε in terms of [itex]\delta[/itex] ?

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The discussion revolves around solving for the variable ε in the context of an equation involving δ and θ, where all variables are constrained within the interval (0,1). The original poster is attempting to rearrange a specific condition related to these variables.

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  • The original poster explores rearranging the equation to express ε in terms of other parameters, leading to a transformed equation. Some participants question the feasibility of obtaining a closed form solution for ε.

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Participants are actively discussing the problem, with one suggesting that solving for δ is more common than solving for ε. There is a recognition that a closed form solution for ε may not exist, and numerical methods might be necessary instead.

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The original poster clarifies that the problem is not related to the traditional ε-δ limit proof, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the notation used.

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As part of my problem I need the following condition to hold:
[itex]\frac{2^{n(H+\epsilon)}}{\epsilon}:=\delta^{-\theta}[/itex] for some [itex]\epsilon, \delta[/itex] and [itex]\theta[/itex] all in (0,1).
Now, I would like to rearrange the equation (solve for [itex]\epsilon[itex/] in terms of the rest of the parameters) so as to have the condition be represented as: <br /> [itex]\epsilon = ...[/itex]<br /> <br /> So, I played around with it a little bit, to get:<br /> <br /> [itex]\epsilon-\frac{1}{n}\log \epsilon = \frac{-t}{n}\log \delta-H[/itex]<br /> <br /> I wonder if there is a closed form solution for [itex]\epsilon[/itex] now?<br /> <br /> Thanks,<br /> <br /> - A.[/itex]
 
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azal said:
As part of my problem I need the following condition to hold:

[itex]\displaystyle \frac{2^{n(H+\epsilon)}}{\epsilon}:=\delta^{-\theta}[/itex] for some [itex]\epsilon, \delta[/itex] and [itex]\theta[/itex] all in (0,1).

Now, I would like to rearrange the equation (solve for [itex]\epsilon[/itex] in terms of the rest of the parameters) so as to have the condition be represented as:
[itex]\epsilon = ...[/itex]

So, I played around with it a little bit, to get:

[itex]\epsilon-\frac{1}{n}\log \epsilon = \frac{-t}{n}\log \delta-H[/itex]

I wonder if there is a closed form solution for [itex]\epsilon[/itex] now?

Thanks,

- A.
Hello azal. Welcome to PF.

I fixed a bad tag in the quoted post.

It's usual to solve for δ in terms of ε, not the other way around.

I'm pretty sure there's no way to solve for ε in closed form.
 
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Hi Sammy,

Thanks for your response.
This is not an [itex]\epsilon,\delta[/itex] (limit) proof, although my notation may suggest it is.

I guess I'll have to change the conditions then.

Thanks again,
- Azal.
 
azal said:
Hi Sammy,

Thanks for your response.
This is not an [itex]\epsilon,\delta[/itex] (limit) proof, although my notation may suggest it is.

I guess I'll have to change the conditions then.

Thanks again,
- Azal.

In that case, the way to solve for ε is numerically.
 
Thanks.
 

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