Coulomb Gauge Fixing: Adding Gradient & Subtracting Partial Time Derivative

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The discussion revolves around the Coulomb gauge in electromagnetism, specifically addressing the implications of setting the divergence of the vector potential A to zero and its relationship with gauge transformations involving the scalar potential V. Participants explore the mathematical framework and physical interpretations of these concepts, including their roles in simplifying Maxwell's equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that a gauge transformation involves modifying the vector potential A and scalar potential V without affecting the electric and magnetic fields.
  • There is a discussion about the meaning of the term "drond," which refers to partial differentiation, and the nature of the scalar function lambda used in gauge transformations.
  • One participant questions the connection between the condition div(A) = 0 and gauge transformations, seeking clarification on its implications.
  • Another participant introduces the Lorentz condition, suggesting it relates to the conservation of charge and imposes constraints on A and V.
  • Some contributions highlight that fixing a time-invariant scalar potential under the Coulomb gauge may restrict physical phenomena, particularly concerning irrotational currents.
  • There is mention of the differences between the Coulomb gauge and the Lorenz gauge, particularly in how they satisfy different wave equations and the freedoms allowed in choosing potentials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and interpretation of the Coulomb gauge and its relationship to gauge transformations. While some clarify aspects of the theory, others raise questions and highlight potential misunderstandings, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific mathematical forms and conditions related to gauge transformations, but there are unresolved aspects regarding the implications of these transformations on physical phenomena and the definitions involved.

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Coulomb gauge fixes gauge by setting div(A)=0.
What has it to do with adding a gradient to A and subtract a partial time derivative from V?
 
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intervoxel said:
Coulomb gauge fixes gauge by setting div(A)=0.
What has it to do with adding a gradient to A and subtract a partial time derivative from V?
Hello intervoxel
What is Coulomb gauge?
greetings Janm
 
Hi,

A gauge transformation in the electromagnetic field is the folowing pair of equations:

A' = A + grad(lambda),

V' = V - drond lambda / drond t,

where V is the scalar potential and A the vector potential. Lambda can be any function.

This has the nice property of leaving the fields E and B unnafected. It is used to simplify
expressions derived from Maxwell`s equations.

The two most common gauge transformations are the Coulomb and Lorentz gauges.
 
Hello intervoxel
So you have large scale fields based on the scalar potential A and vector potential V.
The elctric field based on the scalar potential and the magnetic field based on the vector potential is it not?
... and now a gauge is a local changement of overall field if I understand right.
Is Lambda a scalar function and what is drond?
greetings Janm
 
drond means partial differential.

lambda is a scalar function.

The theory says that the EM field can be derived from two potential functions through the relations:

E = -grad(V)-drond A / drond t
B = curl(A)

We may then have many pairs of potential functions generate the same EM field.

Gauge transformations extend this set even further.

Oh, come on folks, let's return to my original question: What div(A)=0 has to do with gauge transformation?
 
intervoxel said:
... What div(A)=0 has to do with gauge transformation?
Hello Intervoxel
The chapter inhomogeneous wave equation speaks of Lorentzcondition:

divA+mu*eps*drondphi/drondt+mu*sig*phi=0,

which gives the wave equation in free space.

divA+(1/c^2)*drondphi/drondt=0

and continues with introduction of the d'Alenbertian and after that retarded potentials, so what is your problem?
greetings Janm
 
Now I see, JANm, thank you.

The Lorentz condition is a statement of the law of conservation of charge -- It imposes a constraint between A and V. If I select a V invariant in time I get Coulomb gauge:

A' = A + grad(V)
V' = V - 0
 
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intervoxel said:
Now I see, JANm, thank you.

The Lorentz condition is a statement of the law of conservation of charge -- It imposes a constraint between A and V. If I select a V invariant in time I get Coulomb gauge:

A' = A + grad(V)
V' = V - 0

You would not want to explicitly set the scalar potential to be time invariant. The primary reason being that it restricts the physical phenomenon that can occur. For example, under the Coulomb gauge we can derive the expression that
[tex]\frac{1}{c^2}\nabla\frac{\partial^2 \Phi}{\partial t^2} = \mu_0\mathbf{J}_t[/tex]
where J_t here is the irrotational current, the curl free portion of the currents. Thus, by fixing a time invariant scalar potential you are forcing the condition that there can be no irrotational currents, among other things I am sure.

The reason for confusion is that I believe you are still trying to satisfy the Lorenz condition, which is the defining property that gives rise to the Lorenz gauge. The Lorenz gauge requires that the Lorenz condition be satisfied,
[tex]\nabla\cdot\mathbf{A}+\frac{1}{c^2}\frac{\partial \Phi}{\partial t} = 0[/tex]
This gives rise to the two decoupled inhomogeneous wave equations for \Phi and A.
The Coulomb gauge, however, satisfies the inhomogeneous wave equation,
[tex]\nabla^2\mathbf{A} - \frac{1}{c^2}\frac{\partial^2 \mathbf{A}}{\partial t^2} = -\mu_0\mathbf{J} + \frac{1}{c^2}\nabla \frac{\partial \Phi}{\partial t}[/tex]
We can see that by decomposing the current into irrotational and solenoidal components we can decouple the above wave equation as previously stated above. While this is very similar to what arises in the Lorenz gauge, it allows a different set of freedoms in the choice of our potentials. You can find a detailed explanation of this in Jackson's text.
 

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