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Diagnostic laboratory testing is a cornerstone of the management of the COVID19 pandemic. There are now 26 reference laboratories with expertise in virology, diagnostics, sequencing, viral culture.
I invite everyone to watch this vid. It appears that COVID-19 is not only causing ARDS (breathing prob syndrome) but blood clotting and fast...to die. That's why those who have diabetes and cardio issues are very high risks.DennisN said:Quite fine, thanks for asking!No, nothing that has been significant. I've had a bit of a sore throat a couple of times, but it has been really minor. And I suspect that I am on a heightened level of awareness of bodily symptoms due to the pandemic, so I can't really tell if the sore throat was really particularly sore at those times, or if it was an effect of my heightened awareness. So, if there was any symptom, it was very minor, barely noticeable.I'm sorry to hear that. The symptoms you describe match - as far as I know - some of the symptoms of people that have had Covid-19 (difficulty breating, fatigue, coughing). Another symptom is fever. Do you have a thermometer at home? If not, if I were you I would get one, just in case. And maybe you should have a talk with healthcare about your symptoms? Maybe you could get a test?
And about experiencing "waves" of symptoms... I have definitely heard about that. Earlier in March I watched an interview with a British man who had Covid-19 in Wuhan, in which he described the waves of symptoms. In his case, they got worse with each "wave". Also please note that symptoms may vary between different persons, of course! Here's the interview:
Coronavirus survivor reveals what it's like to have Covid-19 (Channel 4 News, Mar 10, 2020)
Take care, and stay safe!
kyphysics said:Three days ago, I could barely breathe. I literally was struggling to breathe as if someone had closed my airways by 60% or so. It was odd. I wasn't even moving much and found it hard to breathe. Even drinking and eating were difficult. The moment I opened my mouth to try to drink something, I was gasping for air. I could barely eat. I felt like I had sprinted to the point of needing a lot of air whenever eating or just moving. I had to literally sit still to have air that felt relaxed. Otherwise, I was gasping.
I felt weak as well. Then a day and half later or so, everything felt great. It was an 180 turn-around. It was SO odd.
kyphysics said:Really wondering if I had it, because I've had sudden days where I've had a non-stop cough. Then, it'd go away a few days later...and come back...and repeat the cycle. It's totally bizarre. There were two very scary moments when I considered going to the E.R. The first was back in March when I felt I literally could not raise my arms. I had massive fatigue, cough, and a burning sensation in my chest/throat/gut.
The second was just a few days ago when I had the breathing issue and felt very tired as well. It's just this sudden weakness that is bizarre and coupled with other stuff. Anyhow, hope you're doing well.
The Guardian article said:People tell of symptoms coming and going weeks after falling ill, even in mild cases
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From 11 March, Alice experienced consistent severe fatigue, chest pain and tightness, and a cough – but no fever. Other symptoms came and went in waves, including chills, insomnia and heart palpitations. “Day eight, nine, 10 was just really horrible, you are just concentrating on breathing and hanging in there,” she said.
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The symptoms continued to come and go, Alice said. “It is like a storm. One day you can have zero symptoms … then it will just go crazy and as quickly as it hits you it can go.”
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nsaspook said:From the NYT piece.
Astronuc said:Few infections, no deaths - 'And then, boom': Outbreak shows shaky ground as Texas opens
South Korea’s infectious disease experts said Thursday that dead virus fragments were the likely cause of over 260 people here testing positive again for the novel Coronavirus days and even weeks after marking full recoveries.
Oh Myoung-don, who leads the central clinical committee for emerging disease control, said the committee members found little reason to believe that those cases could be COVID-19 reinfections or reactivations, which would have made global efforts to contain the virus much more daunting.
“The tests detected the ribonucleic acid of the dead virus,” said Oh, a Seoul National University hospital doctor, at a press conference Thursday held at the National Medical Center.
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kyphysics said:Dennis - how have you been?
Have you had any "lingering" symptoms of possible COVID-19 we had previously talked about?
Three days ago, I could barely breathe. I literally was struggling to breathe as if someone had closed my airways by 60% or so. It was odd. I wasn't even moving much and found it hard to breathe. Even drinking and eating were difficult. The moment I opened my mouth to try to drink something, I was gasping for air. I could barely eat. I felt like I had sprinted to the point of needing a lot of air whenever eating or just moving. I had to literally sit still to have air that felt relaxed. Otherwise, I was gasping.
Really wondering if I had it, because I've had sudden days where I've had a non-stop cough. Then, it'd go away a few days later...and come back...and repeat the cycle. It's totally bizarre. There were two very scary moments when I considered going to the E.R. The first was back in March when I felt I literally could not raise my arms. I had massive fatigue, cough, and a burning sensation in my chest/throat/gut.
The second was just a few days ago when I had the breathing issue and felt very tired as well. It's just this sudden weakness that is bizarre and coupled with other stuff. Anyhow, hope you're doing well.
Was just curious if you've experienced any recurring weird stuff is all.
atyy said:Apart from COVID-19, it would also be good to make sure it's not something else potentially serious (like PF addiction) that can benefit from early treatment.
kyphysics said:What is "PF addiction" atyy?
mfb said:South Korea is on the way to a country-wide extinction as well. Most regions didn't have cases the last 14 days and the country-wide new cases per day are down to <= 10 after a total of 10,000 cases.
kyphysics said:What is "PF addiction" atyy?
It had been over a month since Mirabai Nicholson-McKellar was infected with the coronavirus, and the 35-year-old filmmaker thought she was on her way to recovery. Then the shortness of breath came back, followed by chest pains.
A visit to the emergency room and a second test for Covid-19 gave another positive result. Just three days earlier, she’d been cleared by health authorities in Australia’s New South Wales state, and was allowed to end her home quarantine after going 72 hours without symptoms.
“When is this going to end? I think about that constantly,” she said of the twists and turns in her health. “Am I still contagious? How do I know if I’m not contagious?”
I'd give the re-infection hypotheses more credence if the timespan (time between when she was cleared until the positive test) was more like three weeks, not three days.kyphysics said:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...us-survivors-who-fall-sick-again?srnd=premium
‘False Dawn’ Recovery Haunts Virus Survivors Who Fall Sick AgainA big remaining question is: Are people capable of getting infected again after recovering? Or, does the virus just last a lot longer than previously thought?
Ygggdrasil said:The evidence would suggest that these largely voluntary measures were sufficient to slow the spread of the disease.
There are numerous legal challenges to the guidelines and emergency powers. Some have been settled already. Most of them are discussed on the Volokh Conspiracy Blog. I expect that judges will not be eager to make a decision that could label them as killers of people or killers of the economy. They will dodge and weave, and call in sick, and find technicalities that avoid the need to decide the merits.Vanadium 50 said:There is an interesting case going through the federal courts on Tuesday.
DennisN said:I just read a long interview with Dr. Michael Osterholm (an infectious disease epidemiologist)
anorlunda said:I expect that judges will not be eager to make a decision that could label them as killers of people or killers of the economy.
Ygggdrasil said:Of course, in evaluating which policies measures are effective, please keep in mind that this is an observational study of n = 1, and correlation does not necessarily imply causation. Furthermore, there could be features specific to Sweden that may not allow for generalization of their experience to other locales (e.g. I read that there is a higher fraction of people living alone in Sweden vs other countries). However, these data would seem to suggest that countries can control the spread of the disease through voluntary social distancing measures that do not completely shutter all non-essential businesses.
Covid-19’s Third Shock Wave: The Global Food Crisis
In San Antonio, 10,000 families began arriving before dawn on April 9 to receive free boxes of food at a shuttered mall; in a normal week, 200–400 families might show up. In Nairobi, Kenya, thousands of desperately poor people seeking government food aid on April 10 were beaten back by the police, causing multiple injuries. In Dhaka, Bangladesh, thousands of unpaid garment workers defied stay-at-home orders on April 13 to block roads and demand their wages, saying they’d rather risk contagion than go without food. “We are starving,” said one protester. “If we don’t have food in our stomach, what’s the use of observing this lockdown?”
Even as people around the world grapple with the medical and economic consequences of the Covid-19 pandemic, many are also facing yet another great calamity: food scarcity. Either for lack of funds or lack of supply (or both), poor and newly jobless families are finding it increasingly difficult to obtain the food they need. With both economic contraction and joblessness expected to accelerate in the coming months, the number of families facing food insecurity and starvation is bound to soar.
Major world disasters produce multiple ripple effects. Like a powerful tsunami, they trigger one shock wave after another, each producing injury and mayhem. In the case of Covid-19, the first wave was the global health crisis, still spreading around the world. Next came the stay-at-home requirements and the resulting shutdown of the world economy, resulting in massive job layoffs everywhere. These, in turn, are producing a third wave, possibly even more catastrophic in its outcome: the collapse of global food-supply systems and widespread human starvation.
anorlunda said:There are numerous legal challenges to the guidelines and emergency powers.
kyphysics said:Global mass starvation: Does this sound hyperbolic or actually plausible?
mfb said:Overall I like the German strategy. The result is not as good as in NZ/Australia/Iceland, but Germany isn't an island.
Good for them. It's encouraging to hear success stories. But that level of precision estimating R0(t) sounds hard to believe.mfb said:As Germany opens more and more things the estimated reproduction rate went from 0.7 to 1.
+- 0.2 or so, the difference has a better estimate than the absolute value. There are many weeks of data to study now, and Germany keeps a high rate of tests.anorlunda said:Good for them. It's encouraging to hear success stories. But that level of precision estimating R0(t) sounds hard to believe.