What is a Four Bar Linkage and How is it Used in Machine Mechanisms?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of a four bar linkage and its application in machine mechanisms, particularly focusing on the crank and slider mechanism. Participants seek to understand the practical aspects of these mechanisms, including materials and design considerations for a specific application in industrial settings.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the materials used for the slider in a crank and slider mechanism, expressing uncertainty about its construction.
  • Another participant suggests that the slider is a simplified model that allows movement in one direction, but does not provide specific material recommendations.
  • A participant expresses the need for practical insights into designing a mechanism, indicating that they are working on improvements during an industrial attachment.
  • Suggestions for potential materials include smoothed blocks, polished surfaces, t-slides, or rollers, but the specifics depend on the application.
  • A participant describes a piston engine as an example of a crank slider, noting that the fourth bar in a four bar linkage serves as a fixed frame.
  • There is a question about whether the piston is hydraulic or pneumatic, indicating confusion about the mechanism's operation.
  • Another participant emphasizes that a four bar linkage is a simplification used in various machines and invites the original poster to share more about their specific application for better guidance.
  • The original poster clarifies their intent to design a mechanism for flipping parts in a die casting process, highlighting their status as an industrial attachment student seeking to learn more about four bar linkages.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the four bar linkage and its applications. While some provide insights into its theoretical aspects, others seek practical advice, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple perspectives on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the specific materials or designs for the slider mechanism, and there are unresolved questions about the operational details of the four bar linkage in different contexts.

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anybody knows about 4 bar linkage??
there's a crank and slider mechanism and i need help... i would like to know more about the crank slider and what is it made of?? what is that slider made of?? roller?? 2 bars and a square metal?? help! thanks a lot...
 
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If it's in a mechanics textbook, it doesn't matter. It's just a model, it means that the slider is allowed to slide but restrained in other directions of movement.
 
emm.. no... what if it's not in the textbook... and i am suppose to make the slider out... do you or anyone have any ideas?? thanks... cos currently i am having my industrial attachment thingy and i am thinking of some machine improvements... and need to design something like that... and i do not know what that thing is actually like.. what i know is just the model and the drawing..
 
Well I'm not sure I understand.

What are you making? Could you use a smoothed block and some polished surfaces? Perhaps a t-slide? Or just some rollers? If you provide more information we might be able to help!
 
it is not easy to explain... emm... cos i am designing some improvements... and i just want to know how a crank slider work and how is it like(for the real) thing...
i am still designing and i need to know it just to visualise whether it can be fixed onto that machine or not... cos due there is some obstructions, i got to first visualise and see whether will it works..
thanks so much for your help...
 
A normal piston engine is an example of a crank slider. The piston is the slider. The fourth bar in a four bar linkage doesn't move - it is the frame that the other (moving) bars attach to.
 
thanks so much for your help, ceptimus... so, is the piston hydraulic?? or pneumatic?? normally for a four bar linkage, a motor is attached to trigger it to move the bars, so for this crank and slider, it is the slider that is using a piston to move the rest of the bars??
 
You're not making any sense.

A four bar linkage is just a simplification for a mechanism found in many machines, the piston engine is just one of them. In a car engine, the piston is powered by expanding gases being combusted. On something else, the mechanism may be hydraulically actuated, or driven by an electric motor, or by a big hamster wheel, whatever.


Show us your application and we'll show you how it works. Perhaps you have a motor turning your crank, perhaps you have a compressed source pushing a piston, all you've told us is that you're using a four-bar linkage!
 
so the four bar linkage is a simplification for mechanism found in machines, i got what you mean. because what i have learned are those theories part of this four bar linkage and it doesn't tells me that it is the simplification for mechanism found in machines or maybe i didn't make good notice of it.

well, i don't have the application, because i am trying to design out and four bar linkage just come to my mind. what i am going to design is a mechanism that can flip parts (from die casting) when the part is being dropped from the top by a robot arm. i am still learning as i am an IA (industrial attachment) student and that is my task and that is also why i want to know more about this four bar linkage.

you get me now?
 

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