Creating a Water Rocket Simulator with Matlab

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around creating a water rocket simulator using Matlab. Participants explore the necessary principles and calculations involved in modeling the rocket's behavior based on user inputs, including vertical altitude and mass of the empty rocket.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests starting with the basic principles of momentum, specifically conservation of momentum and its relation to thrust.
  • Another participant recommends reviewing projectile motion and mentions that some calculus may be involved in the project.
  • There is a discussion about the materials used for the rocket, with one participant questioning the pressure tolerance of plastic bottles.
  • Another participant advises using carbonated drink bottles, noting they can withstand higher pressures and suggesting a safe operational pressure of around 4 bars.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the relationship between the mass of the rocket, flight duration, and the required parameters of water mass and air pressure for the simulation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the best approach to the simulation, and multiple viewpoints regarding the materials and calculations remain present.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the specific formulas needed for the simulation and the assumptions about the rocket's performance based on the chosen materials and parameters.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or hobbyists interested in physics simulations, particularly those working on projects involving fluid dynamics, projectile motion, or engineering principles related to rocket design.

CremeBrulee
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Hi,

I have recently started a Matlab course and I have been given a task to write a simple water rocket simulator using function files and a main script. I really don't know where to start and feel over whelmed tackling such a huge task, not knowing anything about water rockets.

I would like the simulator to predict from the two user inputted values (vertical altitude and mass of the empty rocket) the required weight of water and air pressure to achieve the desired parameters. The rocket is to be modeled on a standard 1.25 liter drinks bottle. Any information on where to begin would be very much appreciated.

Many thanks

M
 
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I would start by reviewing the basic principles or momentum. That is, conservation of momentum and how change in momentum relates to thrust.

Also, have a look at simple kinetics of projectile motion. A little bit of calculus will be involved for this part of the project, but not much.

Lastly, look into polytropic processes, but more specifically compression of an ideal gas. You will need this to determine how much energy from the compression of the gas will be required to get your rocket to the correct height.
 
Are you actually going to test the results with real plastic bottles? I'm not sure how much pressure these will take.
 
Use bottles of carbonated drinks, (such as pepsi, coca cola, fanta etc)... these can withstand more pressure (than the bottle of non-carbonated drink). Max pressure is roughly 10 bars, before it gets blown apart. It also depends on the state of the bottle... if you use duct tape, you can get pressure even higher. Max value is mostly useless and unsafe, so find some more suitable number. Rockets I have seen used like 4 bars, this seems quite enough for a safe takeoff.
 
Hi All,

I have spent the weekend compiling the required formula for my simulation on the attached sheet .

What has confused me is that the mass of the rocket and the flight duration are the given parameters and the required water mass and air pressure are the required parameters?
 

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How did you go with the USQ Problem soving assignment Creme? Its a hell of an assignment...
 
...failing miserably in a group with no interest!
 
what group you in?
 

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