Creating Electricity From Magnets

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the feasibility of generating electricity through the motion of coils and magnets, exploring various configurations and mechanisms involved in electromagnetic induction. It includes theoretical considerations and practical examples related to generators and dynamo technology.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that spinning a coil between two magnets can generate electricity due to the movement of electrons caused by the magnetic field.
  • Others explain that this is the principle behind generators, where either a magnet spins between coils or a coil spins between magnets.
  • A participant describes the necessity of changing the amount of magnetic field passing through the coil's area to generate alternating current, emphasizing the importance of relative motion.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether electricity can be generated by simply spinning magnets within a coil or vice versa, noting that incorrect configurations can lead to no current generation.
  • Another participant mentions that certain configurations, such as spinning a magnet around its axis while keeping the coil stationary, will not produce current.
  • A suggestion is made to examine a simple dynamo for practical understanding of the principles involved.
  • It is noted that movement does not have to be rotational; vertical movement, as in "shake" torches, can also generate electricity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the mechanisms of electricity generation through motion, with some agreeing on basic principles while others highlight specific conditions that must be met for effective generation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal configurations and methods for generating electricity.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various configurations and conditions that affect electricity generation, indicating that certain assumptions about motion and magnetic field interactions are critical to the discussion. There are unresolved aspects regarding the effectiveness of different setups.

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Is it possible to create electricity by spinning a coil between two magents?
 
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yes , the magnetic field would cause electrons to flow . if the coil was spinning
 
That's how a generator usually works, actually. Either a magnet spinning between coils, or coil between magnets.
 
Imagine the lines of the magnetic field coming out of the pole of the magnet, and imagine those lines passing through the circular cross sectional area of the coil. If you can make any relative motion between the magnet and the coil, either one of them moving, but in such a way that the amount of that field that passes through that area changes continuously, now more, now less, now more, now less, etc., that's the condition that will generate an alternating current in the coil.
 
Wasn't sure if you could generate electricity by just spinning magnets within a coil or vice versa as well.:smile:
 
deanbo said:
Wasn't sure if you could generate electricity by just spinning magnets within a coil or vice versa as well.:smile:
It can be done wrong and generate no current. A cylinder magnet polarized on its longitudinal axis, placed inside a cylinder in line with its longitudinal axis will generate nothing if the magnet is spun around its axis while holding the coil motionless, or vice versa. Spin the coil around its axis and hold the magnet stationary, or even spin them both around their axes will result in no current generation.
 
To quote ICP, magnets, how the **frig** do they work?
 
deanbo said:
Wasn't sure if you could generate electricity by just spinning magnets within a coil or vice versa as well.:smile:

You might want to open up a simple dynamo and look for yourself.

Zz.
 

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