Critical Section Location in Stepped Shaft Under Torque Load

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying critical sections in a stepped shaft subjected to torque and bending loads. Participants explore the implications of stress concentration factors in notched or fillet bars and the effects of different loading conditions on the shaft's behavior.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to determine whether the stresses at specific sections of the shaft are due to tension, compression, or bending, given the lack of load distribution information.
  • Another participant notes that without knowing the load distribution, it is impossible to ascertain the local stress states, suggesting that misalignment of bearings could lead to alternating tension and compression during rotation.
  • A participant provides specific loading data, including bending moment and torque, and asks if this information is sufficient to solve the problem.
  • One participant explains that bending moments produce bending in the shaft while torque induces torsion, indicating that tensile or compressive loads do not appear to be present.
  • There is a discussion about the relationship between diameter ratios, fillet radius, and stress concentration factors, with a suggestion to refer to course textbooks for examples.
  • A participant inquires whether it is possible to determine the type of stress (torsion or bending) occurring at specific locations on the shaft.
  • Another participant clarifies that the magnitude of bending stress depends on the bending force and its distance from the point of interest, emphasizing the importance of the shaft's cross-section in stress concentration.
  • One participant poses a question about identifying the critical section when torque is applied to the shaft.
  • A later post reiterates the inquiry about the location of the critical section under torque loading.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the determination of stress types at specific sections of the shaft, and there is no consensus on how to identify the critical section under the given loading conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for additional information on load distribution and stress concentration factors, as well as the potential impact of shaft geometry on stress analysis.

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What are the cases for section 1 and 3??
this is a stress concentration factor of notched or fillet bars problem.
From the picture,how can we choose whether it is t=tension,z=compression or b=bending??


http://files.filefront.com//;5410211;;/

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http://files.filefront.com//;5410216;;/


pls help.i really need it.
thanx
 
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Without knowing the load distribution, one cannot tell if the local stress is tension, compression, bending or shear. Are there other considerations.

If a shaft is rotating between two bearing which are not properly aligned, on could have alternating states of tension and compression, with bending, during the cycle of rotation.

Also, I think ImageShack ( http://imageshack.us/ ) is a better place to put images/graphics files.
 
Rp0,2 = 450 MPa, Rm = 1000 MPa. It is loaded by a bending moment Mb = 6,0 kNm and a torque T = 3,0 kNm.

than is all data give.is it possible to solve??
 
pls help...
 
pls help...
 
Well, the bending moment would produce bending in the shaft, but the torque would produce torsion. It does not appear that there is a tensile or compressive load.

For the bending moment, one would use the appropriate b-stress concentration factor.

From the figure viewer1.bmp, there should be some other data besides the three columns: z, b, t There is usually a relationship between the diameter ratios, the fillet radius and the stress concentration factor.

Are there no examples in the course textbook?
 
nono,but from the shaft can we know whether it is torsion or bending stress that occur at the location 1 and 3??
 
If a torque is applied to a shaft, then the shaft experiences torsion.

If a moment (bending force) is applied to the shaft, the shaft will experience bending stress (moments) along its length. The magnitude of bending will depend on the magnitude of bending force and the distance between point of application and point of interest. Also, more bending would tend to occur in the smaller section.

The change in cross-section results in a reduction of area which increase the magnitude of stress in the smaller cross-section. The objective of the rounded shoulder fillet is to reduce the stress concentration which would occur if there was a sharp corner or transition from the greater diameter section to the smaller diameter section.

Then the matter becomes one of determining the magnitude and location of stress, and comparing it to technical limits like yield/proportional stress (practical upper limit of elastic range) or ultimate tensile stress, and performing a fatigue analysis.
 
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while if the question ask where is the critical section if a torque is acting??
 
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' where is the critical section in the stepped shaft if a torque is acting '
 

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