CS+Math or Physics: What Combination Has Potential?

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The discussion revolves around the potential career paths associated with combinations of computer science, mathematics, and physics. Participants explore the implications of these combinations for fields such as electrical engineering, cryptography, and information science, while considering their own academic experiences and goals.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the necessity of combining computer science and physics, suggesting that a major in electrical engineering (EE) might be more straightforward for those interested in that field.
  • Others argue that a combination of computer science and physics could provide a well-rounded education, despite the lack of direct applicability to EE.
  • A participant notes that while computer science may not directly contribute to hardware knowledge, it is essential for software-related aspects, particularly in EE.
  • Some express concern about the lack of programming experience among physics majors and physical science knowledge among computer science majors, advocating for a more interdisciplinary approach.
  • There are discussions about the relevance of specific courses, such as algorithms, robotics, and solid-state physics, for those pursuing a combination of physics and computer science.
  • Participants share their personal academic paths, with some considering a minor in physics while majoring in computer science and mathematics, and others discussing the differences between pure and applied mathematics.
  • One participant mentions a special interdisciplinary major that allows for essential classes in both physics and computer science without the burden of a double major.
  • There is a suggestion that knowledge of programming is becoming increasingly essential across various fields, including physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the value and applicability of different academic combinations, with no clear consensus on which combination has more potential. Some advocate for specific paths like EE, while others support interdisciplinary approaches.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations such as the lack of certain programs at their institutions, the challenge of transferring schools, and the varying definitions of what constitutes a dual degree versus a minor.

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Students considering combinations of computer science, mathematics, and physics, as well as those exploring career paths in electrical engineering, cryptography, and related fields.

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After this semester, I will have to make a permanant decision. Which combination has more potential? With computer science and physics would I have a chance at going into electrical engineering? But then if I wanted to go into cryptography or information science, would either combo be ok? Ignore the fact that I probably have no chance of grad school for this question.
 
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If you want to go into EE, why don't you just major in it? The best combo depends entirely on what YOU want to do with your life. Tell us those goals and we can help you accordingly.
 
One guy in my dep't is majoring in CS and physics. I don't really get that. Most people do CS & math--they are a lot closer subjects. I think that physics & math are both more likely to be self enrichment than career-oriented subjects, unless you go to grad school or study statistics.
 
What are your goals, exactly?

If it's just EE, then obviously go EE... or physics if you can't get into the EE department.
 
Tony11235 said:
With computer science and physics would I have a chance at going into electrical engineering?
I don't think so. Computer Science would not really help you that much at the hardware level, only the software (I think the closest you will get to a hardware would be learning how operating systems work). Physics will help you somewhat to get you towards electrical engineering but it would only help you conceptually.

I know that you are trying to get something that closely bounds electrical engineering from both sides but I think you should choose closer bounds. How about computer engineering or applied physics or optical engineering?
 
Well see I've been taking courses for cs, math, and physics for a few years. I've sort of struggled to pin down exactly what I what to do. I'm a junior now, and all I do know is that I'm majoring in CS plus something else. The school that I'm at does not have EE, and it's a little late to transfer. I think with physics and computer science, I would be more rounded than just a physics major or just a cs major. It really bothers me how many physics majors there are that have never had any programming experience or used a unix based OS, and the number of cs majors that have almost no courses or background in physical sciences, at least where I'm at.
 
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I'm doing a major in "Physics/Computer Science" which is a special interdisciplinary major, which let's you take the essential classes for both majors without the encumbances of having a double major (which is a lot of work)

Based on my interactions with physics people here, the general consensus is that knowing computer programming is becoming increasingly essential for anyone in physics, even the theorists (String theorists, for example, make heavy use of computational solutions to equations too complex to solve analytically)

Doing physics and computer science won't automatically imply that you can do EE, though. EE is a whole different thing altogether. It's probably good to make sure you have the requisite math background, and strong background in E&M and as much solid state physics as possible. On the CS side, algorithms, robotics, and digital logic. And, as much EE as your school offers, like circuits.
 
jbusc said:
Doing physics and computer science won't automatically imply that you can do EE, though. EE is a whole different thing altogether. It's probably good to make sure you have the requisite math background, and strong background in E&M and as much solid state physics as possible. On the CS side, algorithms, robotics, and digital logic. And, as much EE as your school offers, like circuits.

I know that physics and computer science wouldn't imply EE. I'd be missing a lot of hardware aspects and probably more.
 
simple CS/MATH/PHYS...i don't see how you will major in physics without math.(math is a blend between thte too)
 
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neurocomp2003 said:
simple CS/MATH/PHYS...i don't see how you will major in physics without math.(math is a blend between thte too)

I've had a year of vector calculus, linear algebra, two semesters of ordinary differential equations, a semester of partial differential equations. I'm 2-3 courses away from the applied math BS. But if I did major in math, I'd rather have the pure math degree.

I think I might just minor in physics and finish with cs and math. With that I would want to take computing theory, cryptography, probability theory, modern algebra, real analysis, maybe some numerical analysis. Yeah that sounds more interesting than physics (electrodynamics, analytic mechanics, quantum mechancis, plus labs) for some reason.
 
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"pure math" / "applied math" what's the difference? ...I suggest taking analytic mechanics...it is both fun and useful to you as a compsci/math major. Electrodynamics would probably be useful...if you can find a course on
N-body simulations or Dynamical systems/Bifurcation theory/chaos or if your math or physics dept offers it FLUID mechanics.
 
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Majoring in CS and Math here is pretty easy, all you have to do is take 2, 400 level stat classes, and take some CSE electives that are math intensive like:
CSE 451 (MATH) NUMERICAL COMPUTATIONS
CSE 467 (MATH) FACTORIZATION AND PRIMALITY TESTIN
CSE 468 THEORY OF AUTOMATA, LANGUAGES, AND COMPUTABILITY

So your getting ur CSE electives taken care of as well as your math minor requirements if you choose your courses right.

I also agree, with CS you are missing a lot of hardware aspects. If you want programming and hardware, I would recommend CE as the others said. You do plently of both.

Also everyone down here uses Linux and can program, who is in physics/engineering. Its a must now adays, that's why I'm iffy about doing Computer Science because programming isn't so unique anymore, everyone does it just at different degrees.
 
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mr_coffee said:
Also everyone down here uses Linux and can program, who is in physics/engineering. Its a must now adays, that's why I'm iffy about doing Computer Science because programming isn't so unique anymore, everyone does it just at different degrees.

Yeah but keep in mind computer science isn't about programming. It goes with the experience though.

So you're school offers a dual degree in math/cs? I'm not actually get a "dual degree", I'm earning BS's in both, both on their own. So I'm probably taking a little more courses than you might be. I don't know that of course.

neurocomp2003 said:
"pure math" / "applied math" what's the difference? ...I suggest taking analytic mechanics...it is both fun and useful to you as a compsci/math major. Electrodynamics would probably be useful...if you can find a course on
N-body simulations or Dynamical systems/Bifurcation theory/chaos or if your math or physics dept offers it FLUID mechanics.

The applied math requires mostly just differential equations, vector calc, linear algebra plus real analysis. The other degree requires that you take a lot of the same courses, but also modern algebra and either number theory or linear transformations.

As far as rest of the physics I'll take, I'll probably stick to thermodynamics and electrodynamics. I'm really trying not to overload myself with too many hours a semester, which has killed me in the past since I'm not exactly the best student.
 
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Its not so much a dual degree, its just a very easy minor to pick up because a lot of upper level math courses are also related to computer science. (here anyways)
 

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