Current distribution diagram confusion

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The discussion revolves around interpreting a current distribution diagram in the context of magnetostatics, specifically focusing on finding the vector potential associated with the currents depicted in the diagram.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to describe the current distribution and its implications for the vector potential, questioning the feasibility of the described configuration. Some participants explore the validity of the setup in relation to Kirchhoff's Current Laws and conservation of charge. Others inquire about specific examples and the meaning of symbols used in the context.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and asking clarifying questions. There is an exploration of the implications of the current distribution on the vector potential, and some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the currents and the physical context.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention constraints such as the original poster's missed lecture and the need for clarification on specific symbols and concepts related to magnetostatics. There is also a consideration of the appropriateness of coordinate systems for the problem at hand.

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Homework Statement



I am trying to interpret a diagram of a current distribution, with a view to finding the vector potential. I 'm afraid I don't know how to put images here, so I will try to describe it.

In the diagram the x-y plane faces the viewer.
In the x direction the diagram shows two arrows facing towards each other.
In the y direction the diagram shows two arrows facing exactly away from each other.
Next to each arrow there is a lower case i.



The Attempt at a Solution



I think it means that the magnitudes of the currents are equal but in different directions. They converge on x and diverge on y, but I'm not sure if this is right, or possible? It seems unlikely to me.
If this is correct and I'm not missing anything my solution to finding the vector potential would be simply to make a sum of its x,y,z components. It looks like they would cancel to me though.

If anyone could tell me if I'm on the right track or nudge me in the right direction I would be very grateful!
 
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If you are saying they converge at the origin from -x,x and flow away -y,y, then so long as you observe Kirchhoff's Current Laws, the conservation of charge, then it's possible.
 
That was fast thanks! Yep, that's what I was trying to say. I am only dealing in magnetostatics at the moment so I think charge must be conserved, otherwise the magnetic field would vary, is that right?

Also, could you give me an example of this situation? I'm having trouble visualising it..
Thanks for your help!
 
Without wires, you know those convenient conductors, I am presuming that you would be talking about a stream of electrons flowing in space. If say two streams encountered a uniform magnetic field region, heading toward each other, one would imagine that the Lorentz force relationship would introduce a directional translation. One to the left and one to the right. Let the right hand rule be your guide.

(Remember at all times you were asking about possible.)
 
I see what you mean.

Thanks

Last thing, to your knowledge does little Xi ever have a particular meaning in magnetostatics or does it just refer to some small increment?
 
No, I just meant the greek letter. I think it does just mean a small increment but I missed todays lecture and I'm not quite sure, trying to catch up now.
Thanks for all your help
 
Joan said:
No, I just meant the greek letter. I think it does just mean a small increment but I missed todays lecture and I'm not quite sure, trying to catch up now.
Thanks for all your help

Well catch up then, and good luck.
 
cheers!
 
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Hi again,

Now I was wondering if someone could tell me if this is reasonable, for the x component of the vector potential A(r) I have found that

Ax = -u*I*xhat/(4*Pi) ln((y+sqrt(x^2+y^2+z^2)/(-x+sqrt((-x)^2+y^2+z^2)))

I'm not exactly convinced.

I find similar for y but for z i think it is simply zero, but I'm not sure if it is ok to just state this.
I was working in cartesian coordinates, but it occurs to me that maybe i ahould use curvilinear because of the shape of A, but then I wouldn't know what to do at the intersection of the currents.

Also any latex advice, other peoples equations look much better...

Thanks

#edit- just adjusted the brackets
 

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