Damped oscillation of a car on a road: velocity calculation

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The discussion centers on calculating the velocity of a car modeled as a damped oscillator while traversing a sinusoidal road profile. Key parameters include a car mass of 600.0 kg, spring constant k of 5000 Nm-1, and damping constant b of 450 Nm-1s. The correct approach involves determining the driving frequency from the wavelength of 5.0 m and ensuring the calculations account for the effective mass supported by each wheel. The final velocity calculation yields a result of approximately 1.3 m/s when considering the correct parameters and relationships.

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Homework Statement


The car circulates on a section of road whose profile can be approximated by a sinusoidal curve with the wavelength of 5.0 m. The mass of the car is 600.0 kg, and each wheel is equipped with a constant spring
k = 5000 Nm-1 and a damper with constant b = 450 Nm-1s.
Calculate the velocity of the car when the vertical oscillations have biggest amplitude.

Homework Equations



Equation of a damped oscillator
$$ x(t) = A e^{-\lambda t}\cos(\sqrt{\omega_0^2-\lambda^2}t +\phi)$$

where $$ \lambda=\frac{b}{2m} $$ and $$ \omega=\sqrt{\frac{k}{m}}$$

$$T=\frac{2\pi}{\omega_0}$$

The Attempt at a Solution



First thing I thought was that, since this is a damped oscillator, then the amplitude must be maximum at t=0.

Then since they give us the wavelength we know that x(0) = 0 and x(T) = 5.0 m

Substituting in the damped oscillator equation we get to:

$$ 0 = A\cos(\phi)$$
$$ 5= A e^{-\lambda T}\cos(\sqrt{\omega_0^2-\lambda^2}T - \phi)$$

Calculating all the known constants and solving this system of 2 equations we get to

$$\lambda=0.375$$
$$\omega_0 = 2.887$$
$$T=2.176$$
$$\phi=\pi/2$$
$$A=208.357$$

Now using the equation for velocity, by differentiating the equation of the damped oscillator:

$$ v(t) = -\lambdaA e^{-\lambda t}\cos(\sqrt{\omega_0^2-\lambda^2}t - \phi) - A \sqrt{\omega_0^2-\lambda^2} e^{-\lambda t}\cos(\sqrt{\omega_0^2-\lambda^2}t - \phi)$$

Substituting the know values we get to $$v=-596.43$$

The answer should be $$v=4.3$$

Can someone help me understand what am I doing wrong?

Thanks!
 
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Why x(T) = 5m? Is x the horizontal distance or the vertical displacement?
 
Do you really think the whole car is going up and down with an amplitude of 5 m ?
 
mjc123 said:
Why x(T) = 5m? Is x the horizontal distance or the vertical displacement?

Oh you're both right confused both things (horizontal and vertical displacement). Then the way I'm approaching the problem doesn't work because I don't know the value of x(T)... However the fact that the wavelength is given must serve to apply a condition but I'm not seeing what...
 
You have a driven damped harmonic oscillator. If you drive at 10 m/s your driving force has a frequency of 2 Hz, for example.
 
BvU said:
You have a driven damped harmonic oscillator. If you drive at 10 m/s your driving force has a frequency of 2 Hz, for example.

Oh so we use the relation between velocity, wavelength and frequency is $$v=\lambda f$$.
But how to choose f?
If I just use the angular frequency (dividing it by 2pi) I obtain 2.3 and not 4.3.
 
Granger said:
Oh so we use the relation between velocity, wavelength and frequency is $$v=\lambda f$$.
But how to choose f?
If I just use the angular frequency (dividing it by 2pi) I obtain 2.3 and not 4.3.
You calculated λ as 0.375 s-1, but:
Granger said:
mass of the car is 600.0 kg
Granger said:
each wheel is equipped with...
How many cars? How many wheels?
 
Granger said:
But how to choose f?
If I just use the angular frequency (dividing it by 2pi) I obtain 2.3 and not 4.3.
Haru helps you out with a big correction.
You don't choose f, you determine it -- that is the core of the exercise. The driving force has a frequency v/(5 m) and your job is to find the frequency that gives the greatest amplitude.
Be sure to post calculations (in terms of formulas with symbols, stepwise if useful), not just a numerical outcome.
 
haruspex said:
You calculated λ as 0.375 s-1, but:How many cars? How many wheels?
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BvU said:
Haru helps you out with a big correction.
You don't choose f, you determine it -- that is the core of the exercise. The driving force has a frequency v/(5 m) and your job is to find the frequency that gives the greatest amplitude.
Be sure to post calculations (in terms of formulas with symbols, stepwise if useful), not just a numerical outcome.

How I get it now! I didn't understand this was a driven oscillator was a forced oscillator. Then the maximum amplitude or ressonance of amplitude.
Also I need to treat just one wheel of the car (which supports a quarter of its weight -> a quarter of its mass),

Then
$$\omega_0=\sqrt{\frac{k}{m}}=\sqrt{\frac{5000}{600/4}}=5.774$$
$$\lambda=\frac{b}{2m}=\frac{450}{2\times 600/4}=1.5$$
$$\omega_f=\sqrt{\omega_0^2 -2 \lambda ^2}=\sqrt{(5.774)^2 -2 (1.5) ^2}=5.37$$

Now the velocity:
$$v=\lambda f = 1.5 \times \frac{\omega_f}{2\pi}=1.3$$

Still not the correct result...
 
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There is a distinction between the ##\lambda = 1.5##/s that follows from ##b\over 2m## and the ##\lambda = 5## m to convert speed to driving force frequency.
I agree with the ##\omega_f## value you found, but ...

[edit] -- sorry, the 'but...' reservation was overhasty. You do have the right expression with the 2##\lambda^2##.
 
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Right I made confusion between both lambdas. Thanks!
 
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I want to make use of the opportunity to stress that you ALWAYS want to check dimensions in your expressions. It can save you from errors big time !
 
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