Damped oscillator- graphical interpretation

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the damped oscillator equation and the measurement of angular frequency from a graph of the oscillation. Participants explore the relationship between the angular frequency of the damped oscillator and the undamped system, focusing on the implications of damping on the observed frequency in graphical representations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the damped oscillator equation and questions whether the angular frequency measured from a graph should be w0 or ω.
  • Another participant asserts that the angular frequency observed in a graph is ω, as the peaks of the damped sinusoid occur slightly before those of the pure sinusoid.
  • A different participant clarifies that the time between successive maxima is constant and seeks to determine whether this relates to w0 or ω.
  • Some participants discuss the implications of damping on the timing of oscillation peaks and the relationship between the damped and undamped systems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the angular frequency measured from the graph corresponds to w0 or ω, indicating a lack of consensus on this point.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the interpretation of the graph and the effects of damping on the observed frequencies, as well as the definitions of w0 and ω in this context.

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Hi!
The damped oscillator equation is as follows:
x(t)= A exp(γt/2) cos(ωt)

where ω= √( (w0)^2 + (γ^2)/4 )

I have attached a graph of a damped oscillator.
The question is if I use graph to measure angular frequency, will it be w0 or ω?

It should be w0 because if I put γ=0, I should be getting the normal undamped system. The enveloped curve would disappear since exp(γt/2) is 1. BUT then where is ω on the graph!
 

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How can u expect ω in an x-t graph? You will have to calculate.
 
of course I know that. Let m rephrase. The time T between successive maxima is constant. So I consider the complete oscillations, k, for a given time, t. To get angular frequency, W= k* 2pi/t
The question is, what is this this W? is it w0 or is it the angular frequency ω of the damped oscillator
 
it is the angular frequency of damped oscillator.
 
The answer to your question is ω. Peaks in the damped sinusoid e^{-kx} cos(\omega t)occur a little before the peaks in the pure sinusoid cos(\omega t), but by the same amount each time, so the time between peaks is the same as that between the peaks in cos(\omega t).
 
Philip Wood;4113337Peaks in the damped sinusoid [itex said:
e^{-kx} cos(\omega t)[/itex]occur a little before the peaks in the pure sinusoid cos(\omega t), but by the same amount each time, so the time between peaks is the same as that between the peaks in cos(\omega t).

An easier way to see the anwer is ##\omega## is to think about the times when x(t) = 0. They are the roots of ##\cos \omega t = 0##.
 
AlephZero. Agree, but thought rsaad (in post 3) was worried about maxima.
 

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