Damped spring problem with laplace transform

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The problem involves a damped spring system where a 4-pound weight stretches a spring and is released from a position above the equilibrium. The motion is influenced by a damping force proportional to the velocity, and the task is to find the equation of motion using the Laplace transform.

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  • Participants discuss the initial conditions for the motion, particularly questioning the value of y'(0) and the correct interpretation of the release position. There is a focus on ensuring units are consistent when applying the initial conditions.

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Some participants have provided insights into the initial conditions and the importance of unit conversion. There is ongoing exploration of the differences in answers, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their calculations and the implications of the initial conditions.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted discrepancy regarding the initial height from which the weight is released, with some participants suggesting it should be 18 inches instead of 15 inches. The problem does not explicitly state the velocity at the moment of release, leading to questions about the initial velocity condition.

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Homework Statement


A 4-pound weight stretches a spring 2 feet. The weight is released from rest 15 inches above the equilibrium position, and the resulting motion takes place in a medium offering a damping force numerically equal to 7/8 times the instantaneous velocity. Use the Laplace transform to find the equation of motion x(t). (Use g = 32 ft/s2 for the acceleration due to gravity.)

Homework Equations


my''+(beta)y'+ky=0

m=4/32=1/8
beta=7/8
k=4/2=2

The Attempt at a Solution


1/8y''+7/8y'+2y=0, y(0)=-18, y'(0)=0

I know the answer which is:
-1/10e^(-7t/2)[7√(15)sin(√(15)t/2)+15cos(√(15)t/2)]
https://www.webassign.net/latexImages/5/f/f1c0fb013b3d1d7c4fddd1209a1d60.gif

but my awnser came out to be:
http://www4c.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP104701e9a70abfi51f43a000045edi0bi5e950fi2?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=14&w=373.&h=45 .

which makes me fell like my y'(0) is incorrect. I would think that y'(0) would be a valid initial condition but the problem seem to not state anymore about velocity.
 
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Sneakatone said:

Homework Statement


A 4-pound weight stretches a spring 2 feet. The weight is released from rest 15 inches above the equilibrium position, and the resulting motion takes place in a medium offering a damping force numerically equal to 7/8 times the instantaneous velocity. Use the Laplace transform to find the equation of motion x(t). (Use g = 32 ft/s2 for the acceleration due to gravity.)

Homework Equations


my''+(beta)y'+ky=0

m=4/32=1/8
beta=7/8
k=4/2=2

The Attempt at a Solution


1/8y''+7/8y'+2y=0, y(0)=-18, y'(0)=0

I know the answer which is:
-1/10e^(-7t/2)[7√(15)sin(√(15)t/2)+15cos(√(15)t/2)]
https://www.webassign.net/latexImages/5/f/f1c0fb013b3d1d7c4fddd1209a1d60.gif

but my awnser came out to be:
http://www4c.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP104701e9a70abfi51f43a000045edi0bi5e950fi2?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=14&w=373.&h=45 .

which makes me fell like my y'(0) is incorrect. I would think that y'(0) would be a valid initial condition but the problem seem to not state anymore about velocity.
I take it the weight is released from 18 inches above the equilibrium point, not 15 inches like you typed above. The link to your answer doesn't work, but I suspect the problem is simply that you didn't specify y(0) in the correct units. The statement does say that the weight was released from rest, so your condition of y'(0) = 0 is correct.
 
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my answer came out to be

y(x) = -6/5 e^(-7 x/2) (7 sqrt(15) sin((sqrt(15) x)/2)+15 cos((sqrt(15) x)/2))
which is different and yes the problem is suppose to be released at 18 not 15.
 
vela said:
I take it the weight is released from 18 inches above the equilibrium point, not 15 inches like you typed above. The link to your answer doesn't work, but I suspect the problem is simply that you didn't specify y(0) in the correct units. The statement does say that the weight was released from rest, so your condition of y'(0) = 0 is correct.
my answer came out to be
y(x) = -6/5 e^(-7 x/2) (7 sqrt(15) sin((sqrt(15) x)/2)+15 cos((sqrt(15) x)/2))
which is different. and yes the problem is suppose to be released at 18 not 15.
 
Unless you show your work, we can't figure out what you're doing wrong.
 
vela said:
Unless you show your work, we can't figure out what you're doing wrong.
sorry for the late reply but I found that the released spring distance was in inches so I just had to convert the 15 into ft.
 

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