Daniell Integral: Overview & Explanation

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The discussion revolves around the Daniell integral, exploring its definition, properties, and its relationship to measure theory and the Lebesgue integral. Participants seek clarification on the integral's application and theoretical underpinnings, particularly in relation to defining measures for spaces.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests a simpler explanation of the Daniell integral and its relevance to measure theory, expressing difficulty in finding information online.
  • Another participant suggests that the Wikipedia article provides adequate information and encourages the inquirer to ask specific questions or search further.
  • A participant presents a mathematical expression involving the Daniell integral and raises a question about how it can address the issue of defining the measure.
  • Another response explains the foundational concept of the Daniell integral, describing the process of defining elementary functions and extending them to a broader class, ultimately relating it to the Lebesgue integral.
  • The analogy of defining powers of real numbers is used to illustrate the extension of the Daniell integral from elementary functions to more complex functions through continuity.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and satisfaction with existing explanations. There is no consensus on the clarity of the Daniell integral's definition or its application, indicating that multiple views and uncertainties remain in the discussion.

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The discussion highlights the challenge of defining measures and the potential of the Daniell integral to circumvent these issues, but it does not resolve the specifics of these definitions or the implications of the integral's properties.

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Could someone explain some info about this kind of integral??..i watched at wikipedia that this allowed you to find a measure for spaces without recurring to Measure Theory...i looked at Wikipedia but found no further info..:frown: :frown: cold someone provide a valuable web-link or similar or explain (in easy concepts) what's all this about?, thanks:-p
 
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I thought the wikipedia article did a pretty good job explaining it. Do you have any specific questions? Otherwise, all I can suggest is searching google.
 
The question is..let be the next integral:

\int_{V}d\mu f(X) V is a 3-D volume and X=(x,y,z) of course we have the problem in defining the meassure \mu but i think Daniell integral can avoid this problem but how??...
 
As discussed in the article, the idea is to define a set of elementary functions, a continuous linear functional on those functions, and then extend by continuity to a larger class of functions.

In this case, the class of elementary functions can be taken as the set of continuous functions on some compact subset of Rn, and the linear functional is the ordinary Riemann integral. This is continuous, in the sense that if a sequence of non-negative continuous functions converges pointwise to zero, then their integrals converge to zero. Thus we can uniquely define an integral for any function which is the pointwise limit of a sequence of continuous functions by taking the limit of their integrals, and apparently this recovers the Lebesgue integral. Alternatively, starting with the step functions (linear combinations of the characteristic functions of intervals) and taking their integral as the area underneath them also gives back the Lebesgue integral.

You can think of this as being analgous to defining a^r for real numbers r by first defining it for rational r by a^{p/q}=\sqrt[q]{a^p}, and then extending to all r by continuity (ie, taking the limit of the function evaluated on rational sequences approaching r).
 
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