Dark Matter: Can Gravitational Field Be Generated?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the nature of dark matter and whether it can be identified with gravitational fields generated by transient matter and anti-matter pairs that are theorized to exist in vacuum space. The scope includes theoretical considerations and conceptual clarifications regarding dark matter and vacuum energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that dark matter might be identified with gravitational fields generated by short-lived matter and anti-matter pairs created and annihilated in vacuum space.
  • Another participant counters that if this were true, the characteristics of dark matter would not align with current observations, such as dark matter maps.
  • A different participant asserts that matter and anti-matter pair creation does not violate conservation laws and that all forms of mass-energy, including these pairs, gravitate.
  • Another participant challenges the existence of transient matter and anti-matter pairs in vacuum space, labeling it a pop-science myth, and distinguishes between dark energy and dark matter, suggesting that dark energy relates to vacuum energy but does not involve particle pairs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between dark matter and vacuum energy, with no consensus reached on the validity of the proposed identification of dark matter with gravitational fields from matter and anti-matter pairs.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in understanding the relationship between dark energy and dark matter, as well as the challenges in measuring vacuum energy and its implications for gravitational effects.

Lorenzo Mambretti
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The dark matter is described as something which can't be detected in any way except for its gravitational attraction.

My question is: may the dark matter be identified with gravitational field generated by the presence (for short times) of matter and anti-matter which is continually created and annihilated in vacuum space?

Because I know that some studies shows that this process take place, and it can be measured for its energy as "vacuum energy", but I would like to know if effectively it can also generate a gravitational field.

Thank you in advance
 
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Lorenzo Mambretti said:
My question is: may the dark matter be identified with gravitational field generated by the presence (for short times) of matter and anti-matter which is continually created and annihilated in vacuum space?

If that were the case, it could not have a presence such as it does. I.e. there would be no dark matter maps such as per the below article.

http://www.space.com/29085-dark-matter-maps-unknown-universe.html
 
No. Matter and anti-matter pair creation, or annihilation doesn't violate conservation of mass-energy. It just changes the form of mass-energy. And, all mass-energy gravitates. Moreover, matter-antimatter pairs have electromagnetic charge.
 
Lorenzo Mambretti said:
the presence (for short times) of matter and anti-matter which is continually created and annihilated in vacuum space?
There is no such thing. That is just a pop-science myth.
Lorenzo Mambretti said:
and it can be measured for its energy as "vacuum energy"
Dark energy (which has nothing to do with dark matter apart from the similar name) is probably an energy density of the vacuum (which has a gravitational effect), but it has nothing to do with particle/antiparticle pairs. There is a way to guess its density via quantum field theory, but that leads to a value that is too high by 120 orders of magnitude, so clearly that approach does not work.
 

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