DC Generator: Can AC Devices Function With DC Power?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using DC power for devices typically designed for AC power, in the context of a proposed DC generator that is claimed to be theoretically 100% efficient. Participants explore the implications of this generator design on the functionality of various AC devices.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims to have designed a DC generator that is theoretically 100% power efficient and seeks to understand if AC devices can operate on DC power.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the claim of 100% efficiency, stating that AC devices are specifically designed for AC and are unlikely to function properly on DC.
  • A participant questions how efficiency is measured in the context of a blueprint for a generator.
  • Several participants identify specific devices that can operate on DC, such as universal motors, heaters, and filament lamps, while noting that devices like induction motors and transformers would not function on DC.
  • One participant suggests that an inverter could be used to convert DC to AC for compatibility with AC devices.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the theoretical versus practical efficiency of the generator, with mentions of potential power losses due to friction.
  • A participant expresses doubt about the original poster's understanding of the differences between AC and DC devices.
  • There is a request for clarification on the term "Motional EMF" used in the context of the generator's principle of operation.
  • Another participant mentions practical benefits of DC generators in telecommunications, such as reduced fuel consumption and maintenance needs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the efficiency of the proposed DC generator and the compatibility of AC devices with DC power. There is no consensus on the practicality of the generator's efficiency claims or the operational capabilities of AC devices on DC power.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in understanding the operational principles of AC versus DC devices and the theoretical nature of the efficiency claims. The discussion includes assumptions about device functionality and the implications of using DC power.

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I have created blueprint for a DC generator.THEORITICALLY it is 100% power efficient,it involves no AC in PRODUCTION,i need to know whether AC devices we work daily cope up with dc power or not?
 
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100% efficiency? Practically? That sounds too good to be true.
Nevertheless, AC devices will definitely not work with DC current, the whole point of being designed for AC is lost. Most devices use AC either to be more efficient, or simply because their function demands so. It is highly unlikely that they would function the same on DC.
At least that's what I think. I could be wrong, of course.
 
Ok, I'll bite. How exactly do you measure the efficiency of a "blueprint"?
 
1: there is nothing practically 100% power efficient. BTW what is principle of operation?
2: devices that would work on DC
*universal motors used in mixer grinders, drilling machines, etc(series motors with brushes)
*heaters
*filament lamps
3. devices that would not work on DC:
*induction motors
*transformers...
 
You cloud use an inverter to transform dc voltage/current to ac.
 
extremely sorry ,it is THEORITICALLY 100% efficient,
ih,ve said it as PRACTICALLY,the principle i used is MOTIONAL EMF
 
it is theoritically 100% efficient not practically,there may be some power loss due to friction,etc
 
I seriously doubt that you would have the knowledge to build a very efficient dc motor without knowing the difference between AC and DC devices.
 
prudhvi mohan said:
extremely sorry ,it is THEORITICALLY 100% efficient,
ih,ve said it as PRACTICALLY,the principle i used is MOTIONAL EMF

What is "Motional EMF", please?
 
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PRACTICALLY in telecommunication field, DC-Generator can reduce fuel consumption till 70%, reduce maintenance from monthly maintenance to become every six month.
No need rectifier
No need transfer switch
No.....
 

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