Dealing with normalized quantum functions

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The discussion revolves around the normalization of quantum functions, specifically addressing the relationship between a normalized state <∅| and its representation in terms of basis states. Participants are examining the implications of normalization in quantum mechanics and the mathematical expressions involved.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the normalization condition <∅|∅>=1 and its implications. There is a discussion about the correct formulation of the problem statement and the necessity of summing over basis states. Some participants question whether it is possible to prove the normalization without relying on the sum of coefficients equaling one.

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The conversation is active, with participants clarifying the problem statement and exploring different approaches to proving the normalization condition. There is a recognition of the identity matrix's role in the context of quantum states, and some guidance has been offered regarding the definitions involved.

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Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings regarding the normalization of non-eigenfunction wave functions and the assumptions about the completeness of the basis states. The discussion reflects the complexity of quantum mechanics and the need for precise definitions in mathematical expressions.

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Homework Statement



If <∅| is normalized, show that:

<∅|∅>=1=<∅|n><n|∅>

(where ∅ is a non-eigenfunction wave function composed of Ʃc(n)ψ(n).

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I can show that <∅|∅>=Ʃc*(n)c(n) (=1). But the next part of the question asks to use your proof to show Ʃc*(n)c(n)=1 so that's not the way it is supposed to be done. I feel like I'm missing something very simple.
 
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Jimmy25 said:

Homework Statement



If <∅| is normalized, show that:

<∅|∅>=1=<∅|n><n|∅>

(where ∅ is a non-eigenfunction wave function composed of Ʃc(n)ψ(n).

It seems to me that the problem statement must be


<∅|∅>=1=Ʃn<∅|n><n|∅>.

This is just the usual expansion over basis states. What you wrote can't be true for arbitrary n; it only works when you sum over all the basis states.

In matrix language, Ʃn|n><n| is just the identity matrix.

BBB
 
Aha that was what I suspected.

With the correction, is there a way to prove that it is equal to one without having to use that Ʃc*(n)c(n) (=1)?
 
Jimmy25 said:
Aha that was what I suspected.

With the correction, is there a way to prove that it is equal to one without having to use that Ʃc*(n)c(n) (=1)?

I would just say Ʃn|n><n| = I, the identity matrix, because that is the definition of a complete set of states {|n>}. Then

<θ|I|θ> = <θ|θ> =1

because |θ> is normalized. This is not the complicated part of quantum mechanics.

BBB
 

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