Decide the Center of Mass for Rotational Body K

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The problem involves determining the center of mass for a homogeneous rotational body K formed by rotating the curve y = sin(x)√(3cos(x)) around the x-axis, within the interval 0 ≤ x ≤ π/2. The original poster has calculated the volume of K but seeks assistance with finding the center of mass.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the formula for the x-coordinate of the center of mass but questions the correctness of their integral setup. Some participants suggest using integration by parts, while others express confusion about the integration process and the handling of constants.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the validity of the formula and the integration method. There is a mix of attempts to clarify the integration by parts technique and questions regarding the treatment of constants in the integral. No consensus has been reached, and multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express urgency due to an upcoming test, which may influence the nature of the discussion and the requests for assistance. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the integration process and the constants involved.

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Homework Statement


The curve [tex]y = sinx\sqrt{3cosx}, <br /> 0\leq x\leq \pi /2[/tex] rotates around the x-axis and creates a homogenous rotational body K.

a) Decide the volume of K.

b) Decide the center of mass for K.

(The x-coordinate of the center of mass is [tex]X_{T} = \frac{1}{m}\int_{K}^{} x dm[/tex], where m is the mass of of K.)

Homework Equations


[tex]X_{T} = \frac{1}{m}\int_{K}^{} x dm[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I have decided a) and I got the volume to be ∏ volume units. I need help with b).

I try to use the formula and I get this:

[tex]X_{T} = \frac{1}{\pi}\int_{K}^{} 3\pi x sin^2xcosx dx[/tex]

But I need help how to solve this integral (if it's correct?). Please help me with this, how do I solve this integral?
 
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Pir said:

Homework Statement





Homework Equations


[tex]X_{T} = \frac{1}{m}\int_{K}^{} x dm[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


I have decided a) and I got the volume to be ∏ volume units. I need help with b).

I try to use the formula and I get this:

[tex]X_{T} = \frac{1}{\pi}\int_{K}^{} 3\pi x sin^2xcosx dx[/tex]

But I need help how to solve this integral (if it's correct?). Please help me with this, how do I solve this integral?

Did you try integration by parts?
 
Is that formula correct to begin with?

I tried integrating by parts but I couldn't solve it. Please help by writing how to do it. I have a test in two days and I need to know how to solve this before then and it takes forever if I have to ask for one step at a time when there might be several questions.
 
Pir said:
Is that formula correct to begin with?

I tried integrating by parts but I couldn't solve it. Please help by writing how to do it. I have a test in two days and I need to know how to solve this before then and it takes forever if I have to ask for one step at a time when there might be several questions.

Yes, it looks correct. Try parts using u=x dv=sin(x)^2*cos(x)dx.
 
Dick said:
Yes, it looks correct. Try parts using u=x dv=sin(x)^2*cos(x)dx.

I don't understand, please write how to do it. You mean substitute x with u? That doesn't really change anything, there are still three factors.
 
Pir said:
I don't understand, please write how to do it. You mean substitute x with u? That doesn't really change anything, there are still three factors.

No, I mean do integration by parts with those as the parts. ##\int u dv=uv-\int v du##. That's integration by parts.
 
wrong
 
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What happens with the pi?

And why isn't the x integrated with the rest? Shouldn't it be 1/2 x^2?
 
Pir said:
What happens with the pi?

And why isn't the x integrated with the rest? Shouldn't it be 1/2 x^2?

You can just factor out the constants like 3 and pi. And it doesn't sound like you done integration by parts before. There are some examples here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integration_by_parts Start from u=x and dv=sin(x)^2*cos(x)dx. Try to figure out what v is by integrating dv.
 
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Yes the pi can be factored out but DID YOU NOTICE THAT THERE'S ALSO A 1/PI, DICK? What happens with that?
 
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Pir said:
Yes the pi can be factored out but DID YOU NOTICE THAT THERE'S ALSO A 1/PI, DICK? What happens with that?

I told you. Keep track of the constants separately. I'm trying to show you how to integrate x*sin(x)^2*cos(x). The constants are the easy part.
 

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