Delta dirac function times zero

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The discussion revolves around the properties and implications of the Dirac delta function, particularly in the context of multiplication by zero and its role in derivatives of piecewise functions. Participants explore the mathematical rigor behind treating the delta function as a distribution rather than a conventional function.

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  • Participants examine the definition of the delta function and its behavior when multiplied by other functions, questioning the implications of zero times infinity. They also discuss the differentiation of piecewise functions and the role of the delta function in capturing discontinuities.

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The conversation is active, with participants providing insights into the nature of the delta function and its application in calculus. There is an acknowledgment of the need to treat certain functions as distributions for proper mathematical treatment, particularly when discussing derivatives at points of discontinuity.

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Participants note a correction regarding the definition of the unit step function, which impacts the continuity and differentiability of the function under discussion. The implications of this correction are still being explored.

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Let δ(x)=∞ at x = 0, and zero elsewhere. Then

δ(x)(1-exp(x)) = ?

It seems the above expression is zero. But isn't it zero times infinity at x = 0?
 
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As you have defined it, δ(x) is not really a function.
In physics, we usually call it that, but if you want to treat it rigorously you should consider it as a distribution. The most important part about that, is that δ(x) only really makes sense under an integral sign, in expressions like
[tex]\int \delta(x) f(x) \, dx = f(0)[/tex]
(if x = 0 is inside the integration interval).
 
OK, then let us consider the following example in a probability book:

Let

[itex]f(x)=(1-e^{-\lambda x})u(x)[/itex],

where

[itex]u(x)= 1,[/itex] if [itex]x \geq 1[/itex], and zero elsewhere.

Then, it is found (in the book) that

[itex]\frac{d}{dx} f(x) = \lambda e^{-\lambda x} u(x)[/itex]

But I think that the derivative should be:

[itex]\frac{d}{dx} f(x) = \lambda e^{-\lambda x} u(x) + (1-e^{-\lambda x})\delta (x)[/itex]

So, should the second term in the above expression be zero? Then how?
 
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It's easiest to split up the function first.
For [itex]x \ge 1[/itex], [itex]f(x) = (1 - e^{-\lambda x})[/itex] and the derivative is what you got in the book.
For [itex]x < 1[/itex], [itex]f(x) = 0[/itex] so [itex]f'(x) = 0[/itex].

Note that in general f(x) is not differentiable - or even continuous - at x = 1. If you want to use the product rule, you have to consider f(x) as a distribution, which is a whole area of mathematics in itself. (Oh, and you'd probably get [itex]\delta(x - 1)[/itex] rather than just [itex]\delta(x)[/itex]... but that's beside the point).
 
Thank you very much for your answer!

Let me make a correction in the book example:

u(x)=1, if x≥0 (not x≥1, as in my previous post), and zero elsewhere.

In this case f(x) becomes continuous and differentiable. As far as I understand, even in this case I should consider f(x) as a distribution in order to use the product rule. Am I right?
 

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