Demagnetizing Magnets: Alternating & Direct Currents

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of demagnetizing magnets using alternating and direct currents. Participants explore the mechanisms involved, the effectiveness of different methods, and the equipment required for demagnetization.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that alternating current can demagnetize a magnet, while direct current may not be effective due to its inability to randomize magnetic dipole moments.
  • One participant mentions that ferromagnetic materials can be demagnetized by a decaying alternating field and references a diagram illustrating this process.
  • Another participant describes practical methods for using electrical degaussers, including starting with the device off and gradually reducing the current to achieve demagnetization.
  • There are suggestions for DIY methods involving strong permanent magnets arranged in specific orientations to demagnetize tools, with some participants sharing personal success stories.
  • One participant raises the idea that higher fields than the original magnetization may be necessary for effective demagnetization, and mentions the possibility of using heat as a method.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that alternating current can be used for demagnetization, but there is disagreement regarding the effectiveness of direct current and the specific methods for achieving demagnetization.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on the definitions of demagnetization and the specific conditions under which it occurs, such as the strength of the magnetic fields and the materials involved. There are unresolved aspects regarding the effectiveness of various methods and the assumptions about the conditions required for successful demagnetization.

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Is it possible to demagnetize a magnet using alternating current? How does this happen?
And is direct current also possible?
 
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Gomide Math said:
Is it possible to demagnetize a magnet using alternating current? How does this happen?
And is direct current also possible?
The equipment needed for this depends on the size of the object you want to demagnetise. If you want to use an electrical 'Degausser', you can start with it switched off, turn the control to Max (current through the coils) and then slowly turn the control down to minimum. Alternatively, you can hold the object next to a degausser with no current control, turn it on and slowly separate the object and the degausser. This has the same effect of applying a decreasing alternating field to the object.

There are many cheap electrical degaussers on the market for degaussing small items. Also, there are small (20mm cube) which contain small, strong permanent magnets which you can stroke small screwdrivers etc. over. I bought one and the 'iron filings' test shows it works fairly well. There must be two or more magnets in them with a weird field distribution inside. Surprisingly successful after I was so skeptical when I read the eBay adverts! The very high fields you can get with modern magnets allow all sorts of tricks with permanent magnets.

Alternatively, again, I made up a disc with strong button magnets in a circle facing in alternate directions NS. SN. NS. SN. etc. With the disc rotated on a drill or lathe, more or less any hand tool can be demagnetised by sliding it across the face of the disc. Good enough to pass the iron filing pick up test and a nice little project, making it.

But the fields you need are higher than the original magnetisation. So demagnetising a 'magnet' would be more of a problem. Roasting it could perhaps partly do the trick.
 
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