Derivative of e^(x^x) with respect to x

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function e^(x^x) with respect to x. Participants are exploring various methods and interpretations related to this differentiation problem.

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  • Some participants discuss the use of Wolfram Alpha for computation and seek clarification on specific highlighted parts of the output. Others suggest considering the expression as u^v, leading to a general total derivative approach before substituting variables. There are mentions of applying the chain rule and exploring logarithmic differentiation as alternative methods.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing different perspectives and methods for approaching the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of the chain rule and logarithmic differentiation, but no consensus has been reached on a single method.

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Participants are navigating through the complexities of the problem, including the relationship between the variables and the implications of using different differentiation techniques. There is an acknowledgment of multiple equivalent methods to approach the derivative.

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Derivative of e^(x^x) with respect to x

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Computed using wolframalpha. I have attached the image . Would anyone explain to me the part I have highlighted with the blue box.
 

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imagine that at first, you don't realize that both of the variables are x, so then you have an equation like this: u^v So then, he calculates the total derivative of this equation in a general way, then at the end he replaces u by x and v by x.

Edit: ha, I'm talking about wolfram as a 'he'. Also, there is another way to solve this.
 
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hi labinojha! :smile:

this is the partial derivative version of the https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=353"

if a depends on b_1,\cdots b_n, and b_1,\cdots b_n depend only on c, then:

\frac{da}{dc}\ =\ \frac{\partial a}{\partial b_1}\frac{db_1}{dc}\ +\ \cdots \frac{\partial a}{\partial b_n}\frac{db_n}{dc}\ =\ (\mathbf{\nabla_b}\,a)\cdot \frac{d\mathbf{b}}{dc}​

in your case, a is xx, b1 and b2 are u and v,

and so a is a function a(u,v) of two variables, and we need to apply the chain rule to each variable separately

(btw, easier would be to say xx = exln(x) :wink:)
 
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\frac{\partial}{\partial x}u^{v}=\frac{\partial}{\partial x}u^{v}.\frac{\partial}{\partial x}u+\frac{\partial}{\partial x}u^{v}.\frac{\partial}{\partial x}v

Can i get any reason or possibly a derivation for this ?

Hi tiny-tim!
I had been writing so your answer came before I questioned. :)

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/Mathematics/geomath/level2/pdiff/pd10.html
 
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Hi Bruce!
The other way i used to do it was to take the natural logarithm of both the sides(one side of the equation being y to suppose it as the function) two times in a row and then differentiating them both sides .

Is this what you were talking about ? :)
 
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I was talking about the thing tiny-tim said:
x^x = e^{xln(x)}
But yes, the other way you do it is right as well. I guess there are several equivalent ways to do this problem.
 

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