Derivative of Force in terms of distance?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between force and distance on a graph, specifically exploring the implications of the area under the curve and the slope of the curve in terms of work and energy. The conversation touches on both linear and non-linear functions of force.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the area under the curve represents work or energy, expressed as F*d.
  • Another participant notes that if the function is linear, the slope represents force per unit distance, while for non-linear functions, it represents the gradient of force as a function of distance.
  • A third participant provides a mathematical expression for the area under the curve, indicating that it is given by the integral of force over distance, and clarifies that the slope is the derivative of force with respect to distance.
  • It is mentioned that the slope at a point can represent the spring constant in the context of Hooke's law.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mathematical relationships discussed, but there are nuances regarding the interpretation of the slope for different types of functions. The discussion remains open-ended as participants express the need for further understanding of prerequisite concepts.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the linearity of functions and the conditions under which the relationships hold are not fully explored. The discussion does not resolve how these concepts apply universally across different scenarios.

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Hi,

Suppose I have a function on a graph with a vertical axis is Force and the horizontal axis is distance. Then the area under the curve is given by F*d = Work = Energy, correct? If so, then what would the slope of the curve represent? F/d = ?

Thank you.
 
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It will give you the force per unit distance if your function is linear in x(like in a spring).
Otherwise it will give you the gradient of the force as a function of x if your function is non-linear(like coulomb's law).
To know more about gradient https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gradient.
 
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1. The area under the curve in general is given by ## \int_{x_{i}}^{x_{f}}F(x)d\,x =W ## , if ##F## is constant then ## W=F\Delta x## (I suppose always ## \cos{\theta}=1##)
2. The slope of the curve is ## \frac{d}{dx}F(x) ## and represent how the force grow or decrease respect the distance, as example if ## F_{Hooke}(x)=-kx ## then ## \frac{d}{dx}F_{Hooke}=-k## is the elastic coefficient ...
 
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Essentially the slope gives you the spring constant at that point.
 
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Thank you all. I will revisit this topic soon. I need to understand a few prerequisite concepts first, for which I need to create a new thread.
 

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