Derivatives and exponential function

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the exponential function and its derivative, particularly focusing on the value of M(e) and its implications in a proof involving the limit definition of derivatives.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the reasoning behind setting M(e) to 1, questioning the validity of this choice given the behavior of M at other values. There is an attempt to understand the implications of this choice on the derivative of the exponential function.

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Some participants have provided insights into the reasoning behind M(e) being set to 1, while others continue to express confusion about the choice and its justification. Multiple interpretations of the reasoning are being explored without reaching a consensus.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the definition of e and its relationship to the area under the curve of a specific function, which is central to the discussion.

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I don't understand why they took M(e)=1 , and how the proceed on with the proof.
Thanks in advance(=

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Try to write the derivative of the exponential with the limit definition:

f'(x)=lim h->0 (f(x+h)-f(x))/h

and try to factor out e^x
 


yes. i understand . However, why did they take M(e)=1?
I can't really accept their explanation : M(2)<1 and M(4)>1 ,thus they allow M(e)=1..
My question is how about other real number between 2 to 4?
 
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It's NOT so much "how" as "why". I presume that just before the section you quoted they showed that the derivative of [itex]e^x[/itex], for e any number, "[itex]M(e)e^x[/itex]" where M(e) is a number depending on e only, not on x.

It is not too difficult to show that M(2) is less than one and that M(3) is larger than 1 (by numerically approximating the limits). "Choosing" M(e) to be 1 is really choosing a specific value of e such that M(e)= 1. My point about M(2) and M(3) is that there is such a value of e, between 2 and 3. You could, then, by a succesion of numerical approximations, show that M(2.7) is less than 1 but that M(2.8) is greater than 1 so "e" is between 2.7 and 2.8. Or that M(2.71) is less than 1 but that M(2.72) is greater than one so that "e" is between 2.71 and 2.72, etc.

Choosing "e" to be the number such that M(e)= 1 means that the derivative of the function [itex]y= e^x[/itex] is just [itex]e^x[/itex] again.
 


Oh! Thanks hallsofivy.(= I was rather taken aback by the fact that M(e)=1 and not any other real numbers between probably 2.71 to 2.72 . once again thanks!
 


Hi icystrike ;
M(e)=1 since e is defined to be the real number such that the area under the function
f(x)=1/x and x=1 ,x=e and the x-axis is equal to 1.
Best Wishes
Riad Zaidan
 

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