Derivatives of Trig with Triangles

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The discussion focuses on finding the rate at which the area of a triangle is decreasing when the angle between two fixed sides is pi/6 radians. The given sides are six and eight meters, and the angle is decreasing at a rate of 0.035 rad/s, leading to a calculated area decrease of 0.727 m²/min. Participants debated the use of Heron's formula, concluding it was not suitable due to the lack of knowledge about all three sides. Instead, expressing the area as a function of the two sides and the angle was recommended for easier differentiation. The conversation clarified the application of constants in differentiation, emphasizing the importance of understanding the derivative process.
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[SOLVED] Derivatives of Trig with Triangles

1. Two sides of a triangle are six and eight metres in length. If the angle between them decreases at the rate of 0.035 rad/s, find the rate at which the area is decreasing when the angle between the sides of fixed length is pi/6. Answer 0.727 m^2/min


2. I tried using Heron's formula but I realized it was almost impossible to take the derivative somehoe with the angle needed. My givens are
dtheta/dt = -0.035 rad/s
the angle between them is pi/6 or 30 degrees
Now to find da/dt...


Thanks
 
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I'm not sure why you're using Heron's formula - that looks to be better when you know all three sides and don't necessarily know any of the angles.

Can you express the area as a function of the two fixed lengths and the contained angle? It's pretty simple to take the derivative of the relevant expression.
 
no sry i don't understand how to express the equation but what i think is cut the triangle into two?
 
nvmi got it thank you very much! =) But one thing when u take the derivative of 24sin theta,w hy is it that u leave the 24?
 
I'm not sure I understand your question. It's just:

d/dt (k*f(t)) = k* df/dt , k = constant

Is that clear?
 
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