Deriving Group Velocity with Frequency and Wavelength | Simple Homework Solution

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The discussion focuses on deriving the group velocity using frequency and wavelength, specifically addressing the derivative df/d(1/n), where frequency (f) is related to wavelength (n). The group velocity is defined as dw/dk, and the user attempts to simplify the expression by canceling constants. The solution involves applying the chain rule, ultimately leading to the relationship dω/dk = (dω/dλ)(dλ/dk), which is essential for obtaining the dispersion relation ω² = f(k).

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Homework Statement



so I am asked to derive the group velocity of an equation in terms of its frequency and wavelength, but I am stuck at a simple derivative, which is df/d(1/n) where is the frequency and n is the wavelength.

Homework Equations



the group velocity is dw/dk

The Attempt at a Solution



so i got this far

dw/dk = d(2pif)/d(2pi(1/n)

i canceled out the 2pi since they are constants.

= df/d(1/n) f= frequency, and n = wavelength

but i just can't figure out what to do with this derivative.
 
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You need to use the chain rule. You may find it easier to see what you need to do when it's written this way:

[tex]\frac{d\omega}{dk} = \frac{d\omega}{d\lambda}\frac{d\lambda}{dk}[/tex]
 
Normally, you just get the dispersion relation when do your calculations, which gives [tex]\omega^{2}=f(k)[/tex]
 

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