Deriving the Pendulum Time Period Formula from "Fundamentals of Physics

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The discussion centers on deriving the time period formula for a simple pendulum as presented in "Fundamentals of Physics" by H D Young and Freedman. The formula incorporates a complete elliptic integral of the first kind, expressed as t = sqrt(b/g) ∫0π/2 dφ/sqrt[1-k²sin²(φ)], where k = sin(θ/2), b is the pendulum's radius, and θ is the maximum angle. The discussion clarifies that this formula is applicable for larger angles, contrasting with the small angle approximation that simplifies to T = 2π√(l/g).

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In the book "Fundamentals of Physics" by H D Young and Freedman,there is formula about the time period of simple pendulum which uses sine function in a complex way which i think is obtained by series expansion of sine function either by Maclurin or Tayler series.
Can anyone please tell me how to derive the formula?
 
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Can you please post the formula here so we'll have a more clear idea of what you are talking about?
 
What Young and Freedman show is the period of a simple pendulum as a function of the initial angle (in other words, for angles that do not satisfy the usual small angle approximation). They present a series approximation to the exact solution, which involves solving an elliptic integral. (It's not a simple Taylor series expansion of a sine function.)

Read this: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/HBASE/pendl.html#c1"
 
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The time period is

t = sqrt(b/g) ∫oπ/2 dφ/sqrt[1-k2sin2(φ)]

where k= sin(θ/2), b= radius of pendulum, θ= max angle, and the integral is the complete elliptic integral of the first kind..

Bob S
 
According to Rigid-body rotation Law ,you can get a formula
mglsinθ=-ml^2*(d2θ/dt2)
m is the mass of the ball ,l is the length of the rope and θ is the angle between the rope and vertical.
According to Talyor series ,when θ is very small,sinθ=θ.
Then it turns to (d2θ/dt2)+g/l *θ=0,and it is a Second-order differential equations with constant coefficients. The result is θ=Asin(sqr(g/l)*t) A is Amplitude
It's clearly that Vibration cycle is 2π*sqr(l/g)
 
ftfaaa said:
According to Talyor series ,when θ is very small,sinθ=θ.
We're talking about the case where θ is not small enough for that approximation.
 
Bob S said:
The time period is

t = sqrt(b/g) ∫oπ/2 dφ/sqrt[1-k2sin2(φ)]

where k= sin(θ/2), b= radius of pendulum, θ= max angle, and the integral is the complete elliptic integral of the first kind..
The above answer is actually for a quarter period. The full period is 4 times the above answer:

T = 4·sqrt(b/g) ∫oπ/2 dφ/sqrt[1-k2sin2(φ)]

Bob S
 

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