Describe curve to reduce field intensity in fastest time

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The problem involves determining a curve along which an inchworm, Igor, should travel to minimize the intensity of a magnetic field represented by the function ##M(x,y)=3x^2+y^2+5000##. The discussion centers around the point ##(8,6)## and the nature of the field's intensity reduction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the gradient of the magnetic field and its implications for direction. There is uncertainty about how to derive a curve from the calculated direction of steepest descent. Some participants suggest finding the orthogonal trajectory to describe the curve accurately.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to find the slope in terms of ##y## and ##x##, and the mention of solving a differential equation has been introduced as a potential approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the curves of constant magnetic field intensity are elliptical in shape, which may influence the approach to finding the desired curve. There is also a recognition of the limitations of the calculated direction at a specific point.

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Homework Statement



Igor, the inchworm, is crawling along graph paper in a magnetic field. The intensity of the field at the point ##(x,y)## is given by ##M(x,y)=3x^2+y^2+5000##. If Igor is at the point ##(8,6)##, describe the curve along which he should travel if he wishes to reduce the field intensity as rapidly as possible.

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The Attempt at a Solution


The problem I have with this question is that I'm asked to describe a curve instead of direction.
Here are my steps so far: $$\nabla M(x,y)=(6x,2y)$$
$$\nabla M(8,6)=(48,12)$$
Since they want the most rapid reduction, I must go in the direction opposite to ##(48,12)##, which if given in unit vector is ##(\frac{-4}{\sqrt 17},\frac{-1}{\sqrt 17})##.

I have no idea how to come up with an equation of a curve based on this.

Any hints?

Thanks.
 
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toforfiltum said:

Homework Statement



Igor, the inchworm, is crawling along graph paper in a magnetic field. The intensity of the field at the point ##(x,y)## is given by ##M(x,y)=3x^2+y^2+5000##. If Igor is at the point ##(8,6)##, describe the curve along which he should travel if he wishes to reduce the field intensity as rapidly as possible.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


The problem I have with this question is that I'm asked to describe a curve instead of direction.
Here are my steps so far: $$\nabla M(x,y)=(6x,2y)$$
$$\nabla M(8,6)=(48,12)$$
Since they want the most rapid reduction, I must go in the direction opposite to ##(48,12)##, which if given in unit vector is ##(\frac{-4}{\sqrt 17},\frac{-1}{\sqrt 17})##.

I have no idea how to come up with an equation of a curve based on this.

Any hints?

Thanks.
Igor is crawling on graph paper, which is flat. The curves of constant magnetic field intensity are all in the shape of ellipses. If he maintains the direction you calculated, he should be able to get to a location with a lower field intensity (although not by much, since the minimum intensity is 5000 whatevers).
 
Mark44 said:
Igor is crawling on graph paper, which is flat. The curves of constant magnetic field intensity are all in the shape of ellipses. If he maintains the direction you calculated, he should be able to get to a location with a lower field intensity (although not by much, since the minimum intensity is 5000 whatevers).

But that direction is only correct at that point. To get the curve on which it must travel you need the orthogonal trajectory through that point. Find the necessary slope ##y'## in terms of ##y## and ##x## and solve the resulting differential equation.
 
LCKurtz said:
But that direction is only correct at that point. To get the curve on which it must travel you need the orthogonal trajectory through that point. Find the necessary slope ##y'## in terms of ##y## and ##x## and solve the resulting differential equation.
I stand corrected. What I said would be applicable if the level curves were circles, but that isn't the case here.
Thanks for the correction.
 

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