Designing a Height and Distance Adjustable Spring-Loaded Projectile Launcher

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around designing a height and distance adjustable spring-loaded projectile launcher, with considerations of alternative designs such as trebuchets and pneumatic devices. Participants explore various mechanisms, their effectiveness, and the challenges associated with each design.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that trebuchets, while potentially accurate, may not be effective for the intended purpose, prompting questions about what "not very effective" means.
  • Another participant expresses a preference for trebuchets, arguing that their mathematics is well developed and more interesting than that of spring-loaded devices.
  • Concerns are raised about the repeatability of a spring-loaded launcher, with one participant noting that variations in energy storage and friction could affect accuracy.
  • A participant proposes a pneumatic device as a more accurate and powerful alternative, highlighting its fun aspect and simplicity in design.
  • Details of the pneumatic device's operation are shared, including its components and functionality.
  • One participant expresses the need for angle adjustment in the launcher and raises concerns about the time required to pump air into a pneumatic device between launches.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the effectiveness of trebuchets versus spring-loaded and pneumatic devices. There is no consensus on the best design, and multiple competing views remain regarding the advantages and challenges of each approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific requirements for the launcher, including height and distance adjustments, but do not resolve the implications of these requirements on the design choices. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the mass of the projectile and its impact on performance.

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Projectile Launcher Ideas?

I was originally going to make a trebuchet, but my teacher informed me that trebuchets are not very effective, though accurate if made right. I decided to make a spring loaded projectile launcher, yet I can't find any material lists or designs on the Internet. The launcher will need to be height and distance adjustable. It needs to be able to be launched within 2-6m, 2.5m height limit, and a 10cm-1m platform range
 
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But trebuchets are so cool! I think there some kind of rule that if you're on the internet you have to love trebuchets! Does your teacher hate computers or something?
J/K

Seriously, what did s/he mean "not very effective"? In what respect?

The mathematics of trebuchets are very well developed and much more interesting than for springs.

My guess is that a spring-loaded device would be much less repeatable than a trebuchet, meaning more stochastic in actual practice (more subject to random statistical variations). That's just my engineering gut-feel.

With a stiff spring it will be hard to make sure you store the exact same amount of energy every time, and a weak spring will require more movement when releasing the energy, giving rise to variations in friction. Aiming will be a challenge unless the projectile travels thru a barrel, but then you will have friction that, again, will be rather stochastic.

What is the mass of the projectile?
 


I'm using a racquet ball. I don't know the mass of that. I might end up doing a trebuchet anyway since I have all the plans and materials drawn out. I don't really know what he meant by ineffective, though
 


A pneumatic device will be much more accurate and powerful than a spring-loaded device. Plus the sound makes it fun! All you need is some PVC pipe, a quick release valve, and a pump.
 


Could you explain what it looks like and how it works?
 


It is just a tank, a quick-release valve, and a barrel. Pump a bunch of air under pressure into the tank, drop your ball down the barrel, release the valve, and thump! You can find plans and details all over the internet:

http://www.duke.edu/~jwc13/tennisball.html
 
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I need to be able to adjust the angle, however. The pneumatic device looks accurate, but I have to launch it from a distance. Also, I probably don't have enough time to pump air into it between launches.
 

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