Designing Balancing Resistors for Series Capacitors: Factors Affecting IR

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This discussion focuses on designing balancing resistors for series electrolytic capacitors, emphasizing the importance of considering leakage current and insulation resistance over time. Key factors affecting insulation resistance include heating, aging, and operating voltage, which can significantly reduce a capacitor's lifespan. Participants recommend using resources such as the Illinois Capacitor lifetime calculator and searching for manufacturer graphs on leakage current to inform design decisions. The conversation highlights the need for careful consideration of capacitor technology and its implications on performance.

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  • Understanding of electrolytic capacitor technology
  • Knowledge of leakage current and its impact on capacitor performance
  • Familiarity with insulation resistance concepts
  • Basic principles of RC time constants in electrical circuits
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  • Research the Illinois Capacitor lifetime calculator for estimating capacitor lifespan
  • Examine manufacturer data sheets for leakage current graphs of electrolytic capacitors
  • Explore the effects of operating voltage on capacitor aging and insulation resistance
  • Investigate resistive balancing techniques for series capacitor configurations
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Electrical engineers, circuit designers, and anyone involved in the design and optimization of capacitor-based circuits, particularly those using electrolytic capacitors.

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I am trying to understand factors that cause a capacitors insulation resistance to decrease over time
I am lookin designing balancing resistors for series capacitors and understand that I need to consider the leakage current from the capacitors. I am trying to determine factors that would case the insulation resistance to decrease over time so I can design around that.
 
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I should add that I do realize heating and aging are two factors. Is there some way to estimate the percentage the leakage current would increase based one either of these factors? I'm not sure how I would use them in the design stage.

I know that a capacitors lifetime is reduced as you operate closer to the rated voltage. How does this effect it?
 
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Is there some way to estimate the percentage the leakage current would increase based one either of these factors?
Some of the US manufacturers show graphs of leakage current for some products. I don't recall which particular ones, so you will have to search around a bit.

Here is an online calculator to help for lifetime:
https://www.illinoiscapacitor.com/tech-center/life-calculators.aspx

Also try this search, and look at the suggestions at the bottom of the results page.
https://www.google.com/search?&q=factors+for+lifetime+electrolytic+capacitors

Cheers,
Tom
 
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Well think of other materials and how heat can age them?

Also - when voltage is applied - this applies a mechanical stress to the material at the molecular and bonding levels - so that is why as you approach the rated Voltage they also age faster.

Keep in mind - the capacitor by design wants the thinnest dielectric possible to increase the capacitance.

Look at how the manufacturer defines the lifetime - the leakage current they give MAY be the EOL leakage. So as long as you stay within the aging parameter limits and time - you should be fine.
 
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Ntip said:
I am lookin designing balancing resistors for series capacitors and understand that I need to consider the leakage current from the capacitors. I am trying to determine factors that would case the insulation resistance to decrease over time so I can design around that.
You have not specified the capacitor technology you will use. Are you using electrolytic capacitors?

I think of electrolytic capacitors as being more like living things that must be cared for, and that can chemically learn about operating voltages, or die in a hot environment. In many respects, other types of capacitors are more robust.

We discussed various aspects of resistive balancing for chains of capacitors in a recent thread.
https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...-my-high-voltage-circuit.994058/#post-6396764
 
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Baluncore said:
You have not specified the capacitor technology you will use. Are you using electrolytic capacitors?

I think of electrolytic capacitors as being more like living things that must be cared for, and that can chemically learn about operating voltages, or die in a hot environment. In many respects, other types of capacitors are more robust.

We discussed various aspects of resistive balancing for chains of capacitors in a recent thread.
https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...-my-high-voltage-circuit.994058/#post-6396764
I was thinking about electrolytic because it seems like I can get a high value capacitance pretty easily.

I actually came across that other thread thread. That's what lead me to start looking into the leakage current. That application was for 4 kV I think so a lot higher than I need. I'll read through it again though. Some of the questions and answers seemed to be pretty helpful to get me thinking about things on my own. I actually had a question about the matching RC time constant part but I'll make another thread about that since this one is titled as insulation resistance.
 
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Ntip said:
I actually had a question about the matching RC time constant part but I'll make another thread about that since this one is titled as insulation resistance.
Fixed ratio "broad band potential dividers" are an interesting subject.
 
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