Determine a unit vector perpendicular to the given planes

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The discussion revolves around finding a unit vector that is perpendicular to given planes, utilizing concepts from vector analysis and the cross product. Participants are exploring various approaches to solve the problem while ensuring the result is a unit vector.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the cross product to find the unit vector and question the values of constants involved, such as ##c_1, c_2,## and ##c_3##. There is also mention of simplifying expressions and confirming results through different methods.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to achieve the desired unit vector, with some participants confirming the validity of using the cross product. Multiple interpretations of the constants and their roles in the solution are being examined, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the constraints of the problem, including the requirement for the vector to be a unit vector and the specific values of constants that lead to this outcome. There is also a reference to the nature of the textbook being used, which may influence the approach taken.

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Homework Statement
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Relevant Equations
vectors
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I looked at this question and i wanted to ask if we could also use; ##C## =## c_2 ##(##-\dfrac {3}{2}i## +## j - 3k)## ... cheers

This problem can also be solved by using the approach of cross product ##A×B##...
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement:: see attached.
Relevant Equations:: vectors

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I looked at this question and i wanted to ask if we could also use; ##C## =## c_2 ##(##-\dfrac {3}{2}i## +## j - 3k)## ... cheers

This problem can also be solved by using the approach of cross product ##A×B##...
They're asking for a unit vector, so you will need to solve for ##c_2##. Doing so will give you exactly the same two vectors as shown in the solution.
 
I understand that...I just wanted to be certain that we could work with any ##c_1, c_2## or ##c_3##...thanks...working to the given solution is straightforward.
 
Mark44 said:
They're asking for a unit vector, so you will need to solve for ##c_2##. Doing so will give you exactly the same two vectors as shown in the solution.
By the way Mark what do you mean by solve for ##c_2?##...in the text they worked with ##c_3## to solution...I am assuming that you mean the same will apply for ##c_2##.
Mark44 said:
They're asking for a unit vector, so you will need to solve for ##c_2##. Doing so will give you exactly the same two vectors as shown in the solution.
 
chwala said:
By the way Mark what do you mean by solve for ##c_2##?
Because you wrote "##C = c_2 (-\dfrac {3}{2}i + j - 3k)## and it needs to be a unit vector. There are only two values of ##c_2## that make this a unit vector: one positive and one negative.
 
What i meant;
The unit vector in the direction of c can also be given by;
##±\dfrac{{-\frac {3}{2}}i+j-3k}{\sqrt \frac{49}{4}}...##

using either ##c_1, c_2## or ##c_3## would work as indicated in my post ##3##.
 
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chwala said:
What i meant;
The unit vector in the direction of c can also be given by;
##±\dfrac{{-\frac {3}{2}}i+j-3k}{\sqrt \frac{49}{4}}##
Yes, but why would you want to write it this way without simplifying it? Dividing by ##\frac{49} 4## is equivalent to multiplying by 2/7. If you do this, you get the same result as shown in the solution.
 
Mark44 said:
Yes, but why would you want to write it this way without simplifying it? Dividing by ##\frac{49} 4## is equivalent to multiplying by 2/7. If you do this, you get the same result as shown in the solution.
Yes of course I can simplify that! ...I was just indicating to you on what I meant...we shall end up with same solution...
Cheers Mark. Thanks.
 
Why don't you check the solution by taking the cross-product of \vec{A} and \vec{B} and normalizing it
 
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I did check and confirmed that the problem can also be solved by using cross- product...where ##A×B=15i-10j+30k## ...

My only query was specific on ##c_1,c_2## and ##c_3##...Cheers
 
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As a side-comment, it seems you're using a book where exercise solutions use round numbers. Notice the scaling was by a nice nimber like 2/7 and not, a.g., ##\sqrt 13 /2 ##.
 
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WWGD said:
As a side-comment, it seems you're using a book where exercise solutions use round numbers. Notice the scaling was by a nice nimber like 2/7 and not, a.g., ##\sqrt 13 /2 ##.
That's true...am actually using Schaum's textbook on Vector Analysis.
 

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