Determine constant c that random variable will have a t distribution?

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The problem involves determining a constant c such that a specific random variable, formed from independent normally distributed random variables, will have a t distribution. The random variables in question are x1, x2, x3, x4, and x5, each following a normal distribution N(0,1).

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the distribution of the sum of two normal variables and the implications for the overall distribution when combined with a chi-squared variable. There is exploration of how to adjust the variables to achieve the desired t distribution.

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Some participants have offered insights into the relationships between the distributions involved and have suggested potential values for c based on their reasoning. There is ongoing clarification regarding the correct form of the variables and their distributions.

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Participants note confusion regarding the definitions of variance and standard deviation in the context of normal distributions, which impacts their calculations and assumptions about the distributions involved.

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Determine constant c so that random variable will have a t distribution?

Homework Statement



Suppose that five random variables x1, x2, x3, x4, x5 are independent and have normal distribution N(0,1). Determine a constant c such that the random variable

c*(x1+x2)/[itex]\sqrt{x_3^2 + x_4^2 + x_5^2}[/itex]
will have a t distribution?

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The Attempt at a Solution



I'm pretty confuced what to do. My cource material doesn't offer any clues how to approach this problem and my teacher didn't show anything related to this kind problem. Any clues for me? Thanks :rolleyes:
 
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Mixer said:

Homework Statement



Suppose that five random variables x1, x2, x3, x4, x5 are independent and have normal distribution N(0,1). Determine a constant c such that the random variable

c*(x1+x2)/[itex]\sqrt{x_3^2 + x_4^2 + x_5^2}[/itex]
will have a t distribution?

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The Attempt at a Solution



I'm pretty confuced what to do. My cource material doesn't offer any clues how to approach this problem and my teacher didn't show anything related to this kind problem. Any clues for me? Thanks :rolleyes:

Well, if Z ~ N(0,1) and Y ~ [itex]\chi^2(\nu)[/itex], then you know that [tex]\frac{Z}{\sqrt{\frac Y \nu}}[/tex] has a student's T distribution. That has a similarity to your problem doesn't it? What is the distribution of x1 + x2? What about that sum of squares under the square root sign? Can you pick c to make it work?
 


LCKurtz said:
Well, if Z ~ N(0,1) and Y ~ [itex]\chi^2(\nu)[/itex], then you know that [tex]\frac{Z}{\sqrt{\frac Y \nu}}[/tex] has a student's T distribution. That has a similarity to your problem doesn't it? What is the distribution of x1 + x2? What about that sum of squares under the square root sign? Can you pick c to make it work?

Hi there!

Thanks for reply!

If I'm understanding correctly:

x1 + x2 has distribution N(0,2)

So I need to divide x1 + x2 by two in order to have distribution N(0,1) -->

(x1 + x2) / 2

In order to make the denominator to be in form [tex]{\sqrt{\frac Y \nu}}[/tex]

I have to divide x32 + x42 + x52 by three --->

(x32 + x42 + x52) / 3


So if I pick c = [tex]\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}[/tex]

It should work?
 
Yes. That looks good.
 
Thanks very much for your help!
 


Mixer said:
Hi there!

Thanks for reply!

If I'm understanding correctly:

x1 + x2 has distribution N(0,2)

So I need to divide x1 + x2 by two in order to have distribution N(0,1) -->

(x1 + x2) / 2

In order to make the denominator to be in form [tex]{\sqrt{\frac Y \nu}}[/tex]

I have to divide x32 + x42 + x52 by three --->

(x32 + x42 + x52) / 3


So if I pick c = [tex]\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}[/tex]

It should work?

Var(X1+X2) = 2, so to get N(0,1) we need to look at (X1+X2)/sqrt(2), not (X1+X2)/2.

RGV
 


Ray Vickson said:
Var(X1+X2) = 2, so to get N(0,1) we need to look at (X1+X2)/sqrt(2), not (X1+X2)/2.

RGV

Woops! Yes.
 
Ok, so is the correct answer then

c = √(3/2) ??

I had similar kind of problem earlier:

Determine c such that Y will have chi-squared distribution,

Y = (x1 + x2 + x3)^2 + (x4 + x5 + x6)^2

x1,x2,x3,x4,x5,x6 have N(0,1) distribution.

x1 + x2 + x3 has distribution N(0,3)

So in order to have N(0,1) distribution I have to divide x1 + x2 + x3 by three:

x1 + x2 + x3 / 3

I have to square it in order to have chi-squred distribution. Same for x4 + x5 + x6. So if i pick c = 1/9 it should work?

Is this correct then 1/3 ?
 
The notation N(0,3) is ambiguous. In some books and papers the "3" is the variance, while in others it is the standard deviation. Your statement X1+X2+X3~N(0,3) is correct if "3" is the variance. The standard deviation is sqrt(3), so (X1+X2+X3)/sqrt(3) ~ N(0,1).
 

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