Determine eigenvalue-problem for steel pole

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The discussion revolves around determining the eigenvalue problem for a steel pole using Fourier transforms. The wave equation simplifies to an eigenvalue problem with boundary conditions indicating fixed ends, which was initially misidentified as free ends. The derived eigenvalues are expressed as λ_j = (j+1)²(π/L)², leading to vibrational frequencies f_j = (1/2L)√(E/ρ)(j+1). There is a debate regarding the range of j, with suggestions that it should include j = -1, but others argue that starting from j = 0 suffices. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly identifying boundary conditions and the implications for the eigenvalue formulation.
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Homework Statement
Consider a steel pole of length ##L=1## m, which is not connected (free ends on both sides). For simplicity, we study only motions in the direction along the pole. Determine the eigenvalue-problem you need to solve.
Relevant Equations
The wave equation: ##\frac{\partial^2 \psi(x,t)}{\partial x^2}=\frac{\rho}{E}\frac{\partial^2 \psi(x,t)}{\partial t^2}##, where ##\rho## denotes density and ##E## pressure. Also, since the ends are free, ##\psi(0,t)=0## and ##\psi(L,t)=0##.
If we assume that ##\psi## has a Fourier transform ##\hat{\psi}##, so that ##\psi(x,t)=\frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}\hat{\psi}(x,\omega)e^{i\omega t}\mathrm{d}\omega##, then the wave equation reduces to ##-\rho\omega^2\hat{\psi}(x,\omega)=E\frac{\partial^2 \hat{\psi}(x,\omega)}{\partial x^2}##, since the integrands need to equal. Also, we have ##\hat{\psi}(0,\omega)=0## and ##\hat{\psi}(L,\omega)=0##.

This already reveals the eigenvalue-problem, however, the answer given is ##-\lambda f(x)=\frac{\partial^2 f(x)}{\partial x^2}## with ##f(0)=f(L)=0##. How can ##\hat{\psi}(x,\omega)## be rewritten in terms of a function only depending on ##x## and why the partial derivatives notation if the function only does depend on a single variable?
 
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Are those the right boundary conditions for free ends? Looks like fixed ends to me.
 
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You are right, I was wrong. The boundary conditions should read ##\frac{\partial \psi(x,t)}{\partial x}\bigg\rvert_{x=0}=0## and ##\frac{\partial \psi(x,t)}{\partial x}\bigg\rvert_{x=L}=0##. And these are the same for ##\hat{\psi}(x,\omega)##.
 
A follow-up to the question is to determine the vibrational frequencies. We have

##-\frac{\rho\omega^2}{E}\hat{\psi}(x,\omega)=\frac{\partial^2 \hat{\psi}(x,\omega)}{\partial x^2},##​

and define ##\lambda=\frac{\rho\omega^2}{E}##. Then ##\hat{\psi}(x,\omega)=\cos{(\sqrt{\lambda}x)}## satisfies the above equation as well as ##\frac{\partial \hat{\psi}(x,t)}{\partial x}\bigg\rvert_{x=0}=0##. The second boundary condition gives

##\frac{\partial \hat{\psi}(x,t)}{\partial x}\bigg\rvert_{x=L}=-\sqrt{\lambda}\sin{(\sqrt{\lambda}L)}=0.##​

This implies either ##\lambda=0## or

##\lambda_j=\left(\frac{(j+1)\pi}{L}\right)^2##
and thus

##\omega^2=\omega_j^2=\frac{E}{\rho}\left(\frac{(j+1)\pi}{L}\right)^2.##​

The frequencies are then simply ##f_j=\frac{\omega_j}{2\pi}=\sqrt{\frac{E}{\rho}}\frac{j+1}{2L}##. I am a little uncertain about the range of ##j## though. There should be a frequency that is ##0##, which would imply ##j=-1,0,1,2, ...##.
 
schniefen said:
This implies either λ=0 or
Why break it into two cases? Doesn't ##\lambda_j=(\frac{j\pi}L)^2##, ##j=0, 1, 2,..## cover it?
 
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