Determining the molality of a solution

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The discussion centers on calculating the final molarity of a permanganate solution after mixing specific volumes of Mn2+ and H3PO4, along with potassium periodate. Initial calculations suggested a molarity of 4.45 x 10^-4 M, but there were concerns about the conversion from micrograms to moles and the role of H3PO4 in the reaction. Participants clarified that the concentration of Mn2+ was initially given in ppm and needed proper conversion to molarity. The reaction's stoichiometry indicates a limiting reagent scenario, emphasizing the importance of considering all reactants in the final molarity calculation. Ultimately, the discussion highlights the need for accurate conversions and understanding of chemical reactions to determine the correct molarity.
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Homework Statement



In a lab, 40.3 mL Mn2+ is mixed with 5 mL H3PO4. 0.4g of potassium periodate is added. The flask is heated and then diluted to 100mL. The final solution prepared is a permanganate solution. Calculate the final molarity of the solution.

C Mn2+ = 0.06061 M (60.61 micrograms/ mL)
C H3PO4 = 15 M
V Mn2+ = 40.3 mL
V H3PO4 = 5 mL
M (Mn2+) = 54.94 g/mol
V final = 100mL

Homework Equations



C1V1=C2V2

2Mn2+ + 5IO4- + 3H2O ---> 2MnO4- + 5IO3- + 6H+

The Attempt at a Solution



(60.62 * 40.3 *10^-6) / (54.94 *0.100) = 4.45 *10^-4 M

The 10^-6 was used as a conversion factor from micrograms to grams.

I'm not sure if this is right, as it is not taking into account the H3PO4 added.
 
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What is the question?

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Sorry! The question is to find the final molarity of the solution.
 
Molarity of permanganate?

How many moles of permanganate created per mole of manganese?

georgiabrown said:
C Mn2+ = 0.06061 M (60.61 micrograms/ mL)

Are you sure about it? M usually stands just for mol/L.

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Yes, the molarity of permanganate. The concentration on Mn2+ was initially given in ppm (micrograms/mL) and i converted that value to mol/L...
 
If you have converted 60.61 ppm to 0.06061 M you did it wrong.

You have not answered my question.

How many moles of manganese initially?

How many moles of permanganate created per mole of manganese?

What is the final volume?

What is concentration definition?

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I think i corrected my conversion : 60.61 ug/mL = 1.10 * 10^-3 M

1. n = cv
= 4.43 *10^-5
2. 1:1 mole ratio
3. final volume = 0.1 L
4. concentration = 4.43*10^-4

is the H3PO4 not involved in the reaction?
 
I got 4.45x10-4M, that's most likely because of some rounding errors and/ordifferent molar masses used - but in general that's the same.

Phosphoric acid... This is a limiting reagent problem. Think about amounts of substances used.

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