Determining the Yield strength and Ultimate tensile strength of HDPE

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The discussion focuses on determining the yield strength and ultimate tensile strength (UTS) of polyethylene, specifically HDPE. Participants emphasize that yield strength should not exceed UTS, yet one user reports a graph indicating otherwise, raising concerns about potential testing errors such as sample slippage during the tensile test. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding different polyethylene types and their material properties, particularly regarding strain softening and temperature effects. Users are encouraged to share their test setups and results for further analysis. Overall, the thread seeks assistance in accurately interpreting stress-strain curves and resolving discrepancies in test findings.
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Apparently yield strength cannot be greater than ultimate tensile strength but in my graph the yield strength is greater
Trying to determine the yield and ultimate tensile strength
Help would very appreciated. Also I am new to this website so if something seems wrong please tell me :)
 

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jrmichler said:
Tell us something about your test setup, the material under test, and what you observed during the test. Also, it helps to post the full image - save as a JPG, click Attach Files >> Insert >> Full Image.
The substance being tested is Polyethylene. I have uploaded a picture of the fracture and the graph as jpg
 
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Anmol Dubey said:
Summary:: Apparently yield strength cannot be greater than ultimate tensile strength but in my graph the yield strength is greater
Trying to determine the yield and ultimate tensile strength

Help would very appreciated. Also I am new to this website so if something seems wrong please tell me :)
 
I did a quick search using terms stress strain curve polyethylene. The first hits discussed strain softening, strain rate, and the effect of temperature. The plot below shows the effect of strain softening. It's the portion of the stress strain curve from a to c.
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Also, polyethylene comes in many forms - some of which are LDPE, medium density, HDPE, UHMWPE. They have large differences in material properties. I suggest that you do some searching of the material properties of your type of polyethylene and also polymers in general. Pay special attention to strain softening.
 
jrmichler said:
I did a quick search using terms stress strain curve polyethylene. The first hits discussed strain softening, strain rate, and the effect of temperature. The plot below shows the effect of strain softening. It's the portion of the stress strain curve from a to c.
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Also, polyethylene comes in many forms - some of which are LDPE, medium density, HDPE, UHMWPE. They have large differences in material properties. I suggest that you do some searching of the material properties of your type of polyethylene and also polymers in general. Pay special attention to strain softening.
Could you please tell me where the UTS and Yield stress would be on my graph?
 
The first peak on the graph is the yield point. UTS is normally higher then the yield stress. Is it possible the sample slipped in the "grips" during the tensile test?
 
I have the same problem exactly, can anyone advise me?
 
ahmasrieng said:
I have the same problem exactly, can anyone advise me?
Welcome to PF.

After reading the responses above, what questions do you still have? Can you upload your test results (use "Attach files" below the Edit Window) and tell us what you think your problem might be? Thanks.
 
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