Determining uncertanity from the wave equation

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The discussion centers on determining the uncertainties in position (dx) and momentum (dp) from the wave equation, specifically in the context of quantum mechanics. Participants explore the relationship between wavefunctions in position and momentum space and how to calculate uncertainties from these functions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how to find uncertainties in position and momentum from the wave equation.
  • Another participant explains that the wavefunction in momentum space is the Fourier transform of the wavefunction in position space, indicating a relationship between the spread of the wavefunction in one space and its concentration in the other.
  • A later reply clarifies that the original question may have confused the wave equation with the wave function, emphasizing the need to define uncertainties using the wave function.
  • The same participant provides a formula for calculating uncertainty in position (Δx) based on the wavefunction, suggesting a similar approach for momentum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing levels of understanding regarding the concepts involved, with some clarifying terminology and others seeking more specific guidance on calculating uncertainties. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the best approach to finding uncertainties from the wave equation.

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Some limitations are noted, including the need for participants to disclose their prior knowledge of quantum mechanics to facilitate clearer responses. The discussion also highlights potential confusion between the wave equation and the wave function.

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Hi!
How does one find out dx and dp from the wave equation?
Appreciate ur help:)
 
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the wavefunction in momentum space is the Fourier transform of the wavefunction in position space.
therefore if the wavefunction is spread out in momenta space it is more concentrated in position space and Vice versa
this is just the the property of a function and its Fourier transform.
 
yes I am aware of that but what i asked is how does one find the "uncertainity" in position and momentum FROM the wave eqn?
 
mc_i2020 said:
yes I am aware of that but what i asked is how does one find the "uncertainity" in position and momentum FROM the wave eqn?

I'm assuming you meant the wave function rather than the wave equation. Wave equation usually refers to the differential equation, while the wave function is a solution to the wave equation.

It is difficult to answer your question because you did not reveal what you already know. Have you taken basic QM before?

For example, to get the value for [itex]\Delta x[/itex] from the wavefunction, you have to know the definition of it, which is

[tex]\Delta x = \sqrt{<x^2> - <x>^2}[/tex]

where

[tex]<x^2> = <\psi|x^2|\psi>[/tex]

etc, and [itex]\psi[/itex] is the wave function.

So that's how you get [itex]\Delta x[/itex] knowing the wavefunction. Similarly for the momentum.

Zz.
 

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