Determining where the function is concave up? (Given an integral)

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The discussion revolves around determining the intervals where the function f(x) defined by the integral f(x)=∫√(1+t^2) dt from 1 to x is concave upward. Participants are exploring the implications of the second derivative test for concavity.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the first and second derivatives, with some confusion about the implications of critical points and the behavior of the function around them. There is an exploration of whether the numerator of the second derivative is always positive and how that affects concavity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on evaluating the signs of the second derivative around critical points. There is an ongoing examination of the conditions under which the function is concave up, particularly focusing on the critical point at x=0.

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Some participants question the assumptions regarding the positivity of the numerator and the implications for concavity in different intervals. There is a recognition that the denominator is always positive due to the square root, but the behavior of the numerator is under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement



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Determine all intervals over which the function f(x)=∫√(1+t^2) dt is concave upward
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Homework Equations



I know concave up means the f"(x)>0, so you have to get the second derivative


The Attempt at a Solution



f'(x)=√(1+x^) by susbituting in x

Then f"(x)=1/2*(1+x^2)^(-1/2)*2x

This is equal to:
2x/2√(1+x^2)

Then, I'm really confused on what to do next because the denominator is never zero, so would the only critical point be 0 and you check to the left and right of that?
 
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JessicaJ283782 said:

Homework Statement



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Determine all intervals over which the function f(x)=∫√(1+t^2) dt is concave upward
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Apparently that is ##\int_1^x \frac 1 {\sqrt{1+t^2}}~dt##

Homework Equations



I know concave up means the f"(x)>0, so you have to get the second derivative

The Attempt at a Solution



f'(x)=√(1+x^) by susbituting in x

Then f"(x)=1/2*(1+x^2)^(-1/2)*2x

This is equal to:
2x/2√(1+x^2)

Then, I'm really confused on what to do next because the denominator is never zero, so would the only critical point be 0 and you check to the left and right of that?

Yes. Find where it is positive. Don't be afraid to cancel the 2's.
 
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I apologize for the typo! So it would be:

x/√(1+x^2)

The only critical number would be 0 then, so wouldn't it be concave up on (-infinity, 0) and (0, infinity) since the denominator is always positive because of the square root?
 
Is the numerator always positive?
 
The numerator would give only a critical point of 0 since that is the only place it is not defined, right? So then it would be concave up on (0, infinity)?
 
There is no ##x## where that fraction is not defined. Instead of asking me if ##(0,\infty)## is the answer, explain why you think it is.
 
It would be (0, ∞) since the critical point is 0 because it makes the fraction zero. Concave up means f"(x)>0 and f"(x) is positive when the function is evaluated at any number greater than 0. If you evaluate the function at -1, for example, you would get a negative number, so it would be concave down less than 0. If that makes sense?
 
JessicaJ283782 said:
It would be (0, ∞) since the critical point is 0 because it makes the fraction zero. Concave up means f"(x)>0 and f"(x) is positive when the function is evaluated at any number greater than 0. If you evaluate the function at -1, for example, you would get a negative number, so it would be concave down less than 0. If that makes sense?

Yes, that makes perfect sense. Since ##f''(x)=0## when ##x=0##, that is a point where the second derivative might change sign (or maybe not). That's why you check the signs on both sides. For ##x<0## you have ##\frac - +## and for ##x>0## you have ##\frac + +## for the signs. That's why ##f''(x)>0## for ##x>0##. That's how you want to analyze problems like this.
 
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it!
 

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